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Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:30 pm
by Raimundo
MAMMA MIA!! My eyes!!!

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:30 pm
by Weenie

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Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:04 pm
by OnTheRivet
Dan Gerous wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:30 pm
New Pinarello CX bike tested by Tom Pidcock...

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That shouldering kink, besides being ugly, is located where nobody places their shoulder. Well done Pinarello.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:17 pm
by robbosmans
Lol its in the perfect spot
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Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:50 pm
by C36
Dan Gerous wrote:It's laughably Pinarelloesque, they just can't get enough gimmicks! :mrgreen:
Arnould (world champion in the 90s) did create a bike (mid 2000s?) with such a feature (using a TT seat tube with the cut for the wheel, as a top tube). It never really took off as concept but I can’t imagine this being a bad idea.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:22 pm
by TobinHatesYou
C36 wrote:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:50 pm
Dan Gerous wrote:It's laughably Pinarelloesque, they just can't get enough gimmicks! :mrgreen:
Arnould (world champion in the 90s) did create a bike (mid 2000s?) with such a feature (using a TT seat tube with the cut for the wheel, as a top tube). It never really took off as concept but I can’t imagine this being a bad idea.

Shouldering features are common... from the older Prestige to the Inflite. Even my Rock Lobster has an ovalized section of TT for shouldering. The Prestige did it elegantly while the Inflite and Crossista maybe not so much.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:38 am
by erik$
While indeed elegant on the Prestige it is too far back for most riders. The Pinarello feature is very local and it would be interesting to see if it works for a wide span of riders and slight change in bike position on the shoulder.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:02 pm
by OnTheRivet
robbosmans wrote:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:17 pm
Lol its in the perfect spot
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You post pictures that prove my statement? The Pinarello is in the center of the top tube, all those photos show the bike resting about 4/5cm behind the center of the top tube?

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:02 am
by TobinHatesYou
OnTheRivet wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:02 pm

You post pictures that prove my statement? The Pinarello is in the center of the top tube, all those photos show the bike resting about 4/5cm behind the center of the top tube?
Without a notch for the shoulder to brace against, it's logical to assume that the bike will slide forward when carried at that angle. Where their shoulders meet the TT may not be optimal, just a consequence of not having a proper shouldering feature.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:30 pm
by robbosmans
OnTheRivet wrote:You post pictures that prove my statement? The Pinarello is in the center of the top tube, all those photos show the bike resting about 4/5cm behind the center of the top tube?
Confirm you are wrong and move on…

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:30 pm
by micky
Nimbl sponsoring Nibali in 2022.
They start to have a wide "range" of pro riders using their shoes.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:35 pm
by robbosmans
They do look very sleek, especially now they use boa dials

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:07 am
by TobinHatesYou
robbosmans wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:35 pm
They do look very sleek, especially now they use boa dials

I really want to try a pair now that they've made enough shoes for Boa to sell to them. Looks like the shoes have a low instep and big ankle collar. Seems perfect for my foot shape.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:23 pm
by micky
Marketing doing its job as the shoes have been available for years from the actual italian producer with his own brand.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:54 pm
by romanmoser
and who's their manufacturer please ?
verducci ?

a few small italians brand that could be , but not sure so asking.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:53 pm
by C36
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Shouldering features are common... from the older Prestige to the Inflite. Even my Rock Lobster has an ovalized section of TT for shouldering. The Prestige did it elegantly while the Inflite and Crossista maybe not so much.
They are not, at least not on the two frames you mentioned. The canyon is not made to stabilise the bike on the shoulder, it is a horizontal TT (to allow enough space to pass the shoulder) with a lowered seatpost clamp leading to this design. The “smooth” junction with the seat tube is placed way on the back to be really useful to keep the frame more stable over the shoulder.

So yes it looks like if Pinarello caricatured themselves with this frame but it brings something relatively unique.

Re: 2021 PRO equipment thread

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:53 pm
by Weenie

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