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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

Forcing WorldTour teams to have a women's team wouldn't change much IMO. The teams with a genuine interest already have one (Trek-Segafredo, Movistar, Jumbo-Visma), teams who would be forced would just spend as little as possible which would be pretty much the same next-to-nothing as what the smaller women's teams already do.

Everyone knows how to help women's cycling and bring money to it: broadcast the races live in good time slots. The problem now is sponsors just don't see the point of investing in women's cycling since there is little racing shown on TV that fans can watch, those eyeballs are what sponsors want. The biggest women's race in the World, the Giro just ended and we only had a few minutes of live coverage and not even of every stages. Make the races watchable and the sport will grow. Ratings on the women's side have been going constantly up in CX and MTB since they get almost as much coverage at watchable hours, even in men-centric Belgium.

I'm looking forward to see if ASO do a proper job with the women's Tour next year or if they half-ass it like the Giro...

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In my neck of the woods we've got Uno-X. Their aim is WWT next year, from scratch. And (maybe with an extra sponsor) WT for their men's pro team from 23.

To get my litte race baby Gylne Gutuer into the WWT would be mission accomplished.
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by Llanberis

So what happened to Hirschi? He was promising last year but doesn't seem to be doing well at this tour. Was it the crash at early stages?
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by Karvalo

Dan Gerous wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:44 pm
Forcing WorldTour teams to have a women's team wouldn't change much IMO. The teams with a genuine interest already have one (Trek-Segafredo, Movistar, Jumbo-Visma), teams who would be forced would just spend as little as possible which would be pretty much the same next-to-nothing as what the smaller women's teams already do.
I'm not sure that's quite the true. Not bothering to have a team is one thing, having a team with your name on it being publicly and visibly rubbish is another thing. If/when Ineos finally get with the 21st century and invest in a women's team I doubt Jim Ratcliffe would be happy with them rolling round at the back of the peloton all season.

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by tymon_tm

...especially when womens races will be broadcasted live on tv.

right now even most cycling fans might not know about WWT, but you can't escape live broadcast on eurosport can you

forcing WT teams to run WWT might be seen by many as a little too much, maybe even too political, but imho that move can boost WT itself too - first of all I believe it could attract sponsors a bit more 'aware' what they're stepping into. second - sponsors and teams themsleves (runnning 2 establishments) would simply need more money. so ideas like "let's get into The Toor Des Frances and see what's it's like" (= all those 1-2 year deals) wouldn't fly. third - it could be a learnign curve for both gals and guys in peloton; being just faster doesn't make you wiser or 'better' at all the fronts..

having two outfits changes optics for the teams too - perhaps it would turn out it's freakin possible to run both races at the same route, same weekend (classics), or same days (stage races)?

let's remember the fact that women's racing is barely there isn't because it's worse - it's because men "invented" patriarchy a long time ago, and we still harvest it's fruits
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by Karvalo

tymon_tm wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:37 am
let's remember the fact that women's racing is barely there isn't because it's worse - it's because men "invented" patriarchy a long time ago, and we still harvest it's fruits
Amen!

That's the thing not often enough acknowledged when people say the women's field isn't good enough to deserve more equality of coverage, prize money etc. It's not that women have only recently decided they'd like to race bikes, it's that the women's side of the sport was actively suppressed for over a hundred years. If it takes some short term pain on the men's side to build long term foundations for the women's side then frankly we deserve it because it's our fault.

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Pog on rim!!

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Best stage to do so, no descent finish

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by Robius

HammerTime2 wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:19 pm
Pog on rim!!
Yeah, Majka too.
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by Miller

Pog is bored of riding sensibly!

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by maquisard

Vingegaard looks like he is only 12 years old following his dad up the mountain. He has very young face.

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Ha, Pogacar happy for Vingegaard to come back and let the fool Carapaz do the work and come third!

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by Miller

That was terrific.

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by HenryH

Please give Vingegaard some rim brakes :lol:

Love how they race these days.

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Very mature riding for Vingegaard to not crack when dropped initially, but come back and finish second.

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