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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

flying wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:38 pm
ave wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:31 pm
Amazing descent from Masnada. He took every corner too wide, but still made it back to Pogacar. Crazy.
I know & thought the same
Amazingly fast with what most would consider not the best lines...But in the end...his way was fast :beerchug:
Maybe Pog took the descent easy after his two scary moments at the begining of the descent. He lost the rear end but saved it in one corner, almost ended off the road exiting a bit wide in another corner, he might have took it a little bit on the safe side after that. Masnada was taking weird lines but he was going all out while the group behind was mostly lead by Vingegaard on the descent, he's not a great descender.

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Dan Gerous wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:02 pm
flying wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:38 pm
ave wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:31 pm
Amazing descent from Masnada. He took every corner too wide, but still made it back to Pogacar. Crazy.
I know & thought the same
Amazingly fast with what most would consider not the best lines...But in the end...his way was fast :beerchug:
Maybe Pog took the descent easy after his two scary moments at the begining of the descent. He lost the rear end but saved it in one corner, almost ended off the road exiting a bit wide in another corner, he might have took it a little bit on the safe side after that. Masnada was taking weird lines but he was going all out while the group behind was mostly lead by Vingegaard on the descent, he's not a great descender.
Not sure how well Masnada knew those roads (apparently he lives there so possibly extremely well) but there were some shitty looking surface repairs close to the apexes of several corners that was easily visible on the tv coverage. Quite possible the wider lines ws a decision that meant he could commit to carrying more speed on smooth tarmac instead of worrying he'd need to check up on cracks and gravel.

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by Dan Gerous

Karvalo wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:21 pm
Dan Gerous wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:02 pm
flying wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:38 pm
ave wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:31 pm
Amazing descent from Masnada. He took every corner too wide, but still made it back to Pogacar. Crazy.
I know & thought the same
Amazingly fast with what most would consider not the best lines...But in the end...his way was fast :beerchug:
Maybe Pog took the descent easy after his two scary moments at the begining of the descent. He lost the rear end but saved it in one corner, almost ended off the road exiting a bit wide in another corner, he might have took it a little bit on the safe side after that. Masnada was taking weird lines but he was going all out while the group behind was mostly lead by Vingegaard on the descent, he's not a great descender.
Not sure how well Masnada knew those roads (apparently he lives there so possibly extremely well) but there were some shitty looking surface repairs close to the apexes of several corners that was easily visible on the tv coverage. Quite possible the wider lines ws a decision that meant he could commit to carrying more speed on smooth tarmac instead of worrying he'd need to check up on cracks and gravel.
Apprently he knows that descent well enough to ride it with his eyes closed. He wasn't looking bad on his bike, just going very wide but in every corner, so it makes more sense that it was because he knew the insides were bumpier/rough/cracked, certainly not because he missed his line everytime... They showed a replay of Vingegaard getting kicked by a bump in a corner so Masnada's local knowledge paid off.

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Also Masnada had a map, Pogacar didn’t

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It's one thing to compare riders when climbing. Speeds are low, and max performance is max performance.
But with downhill runs, there are so many variables in judging one a good descender or not.
Power to weight ratio is no longer king.

Sounds like the knowledge of the road made the bridge, as well as being utterly fearless.
And the map? Well, if a racer has no idea how long the climb lasts, or how far the descent,
then yes that is certainly a disadvantage. Especially on the huge rollercoaster that this race presents.

It's downright fun to be an armchair racer. What a great race with which to close out the WT.
By any account we were given a superb year of racing.

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by flying

Dan Gerous wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:02 pm
Maybe Pog took the descent easy after his two scary moments at the begining of the descent. He lost the rear end but saved it in one corner, almost ended off the road exiting a bit wide in another corner, he might have took it a little bit on the safe side after that. Masnada was taking weird lines but he was going all out while the group behind was mostly lead by Vingegaard on the descent, he's not a great descender.
Yes that crossed my mind too...Those two near slips would slow most down

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These fans and their continue autograph hunting!

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I like the spectator third from right with his hands on his head.

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I don't think the lady crossing the road realises a race is occuring

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by Maddie

She probably thinks why aren't they stopping when I'm crossing the road?

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Maddie wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:14 am
She probably thinks why aren't they stopping when I'm crossing the road?
This is Italy, I'm not sure anyone would anyway.

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Whenever I visit family over there it always makes me laugh the interaction between road vehicles and pedestrians
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Miller wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:18 am
Maddie wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:14 am
She probably thinks why aren't they stopping when I'm crossing the road?
This is Italy, I'm not sure anyone would anyway.
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