2021 PRO thread

[shakes133]

Shimano Road Disc are great.
Nearly all of the riders who voice complaints about Disc are riding Sram or using third-party pads and rotors (Froome)

It doesn't take a science degree to see the commonalities. It's pretty straightforward. No Shimano rider on Shimano parts is voicing any concerns.

Or maybe Lefevre just bites his tongue?

[Maddie]

I've said it before, when INEOS goes disc they will have all this bullshit figured out and most teams ineptitude to figure discs out will be pretty apparent.

Most other teams have discs figured out and aren't having issues.

It is painful to watch how disc wheel are changed by most teams. Drill machines not working (probably empty batteries), takes ages until axles are removed and wheel removed and inserted again. This has nothing to do with disc technology. It's a clear sign that teams are not practicing wheel changes. Or not enough. I realize wheel changes are stressful, many times pros shouting and generally not being helpful. But like mentioned before, I also believe that we wouldn't see these amateurish wheel changes with Ineos.

[stoney]

Most other teams have discs figured out and aren't having issues. Ineos are still on rims due to the limitations of the weight of their Pinarello frames.

All those Pinarello curved frame shapes are HEAVY! Such a waste of carbon fiber and epoxy.

[maquisard]

Pinarello are great looking bikes, they are also great to ride. But they will never be never be lightweight while Pinarello continues the wasteful and strange Onda curve and other unnecessary aesthetic features on the frame.

[AJS914]

It is painful to watch how disc wheel are changed by most teams. Drill machines not working (probably empty batteries), takes ages until axles are removed and wheel removed and inserted again.

I still don't understand why the pro peloton teams didn't standardize on some kind of quick release thruaxel.

[Karvalo]

It is painful to watch how disc wheel are changed by most teams. Drill machines not working (probably empty batteries), takes ages until axles are removed and wheel removed and inserted again.

I still don't understand why the pro peloton teams didn't standardize on some kind of quick release thruaxel.

Because very few teams are powerful enough to tell their equipment sponsors what to make. Probably only Ineos.

[maquisard]

Err, the idea of any standardized thru-axle with a quick-release is that all teams would use it, and all neutral service would also.

That goes beyond one team. Pro-teams have been dictating and feeding into equipment sponsors long before Sky and in the current peloton do... the sport did not begin with Sir Brailsford's marketting.

[AJS914]

I thought there were some products floated about when the pros were first considering disc brakes. But they seemed to go nowhere.

[maquisard]

They are heavier than a non-quick-release version...

[flying]

I still don't understand why the pro peloton teams didn't standardize on some kind of quick release thruaxel.

Because they know disc brakes are a one night stand
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Disclaimer...Ok before the zealots go insane I am joking of course

[BdaGhisallo]

Pinarello are great looking bikes, they are also great to ride. But they will never be never be lightweight while Pinarello continues the wasteful and strange Onda curve and other unnecessary aesthetic features on the frame.

But you can spot a Pinarello from a mile away, so how wasteful are they really?

[pastronef]

Victor Koretzky (bronze medal in the XCO worlds) will ride for B&B Hotels in 2022

is this move linked to some sponsor? maybe Orbea (current XCO team for him) goes back to B&B? (they supplied Vital-Concept)

[Raimundo]

So, this is me thinking outside of the box!!

TWO (2) mechanichs for every disc brake wheel change, F1 style!!!

Lead mechanic deals with the cordless drill and thru axle.
Secondary mechanic deals with the used wheel and the replacement wheel. And pushes the rider forward after the pitless pit-stop is done.

If rider misbehaves (like Remco does sometimes), both mechanics tackle him to reason...

There, not that hard...

[maquisard]

Pinarello are great looking bikes, they are also great to ride. But they will never be never be lightweight while Pinarello continues the wasteful and strange Onda curve and other unnecessary aesthetic features on the frame.

But you can spot a Pinarello from a mile away, so how wasteful are they really?

But that is my point. I have ridden a Dogma F12 and it an amazing bike to ride, great handling and the paint finish is superb. But as a world tour bike it is not performance leading in weight or features.

[Karvalo]

Err, the idea of any standardized thru-axle with a quick-release is that all teams would use it, and all neutral service would also.

What do you mean neutral service would use them? Neutral service don't have axles, they use what's on the bike they're servicing.

That goes beyond one team. Pro-teams have been dictating and feeding into equipment sponsors long before Sky and in the current peloton do... the sport did not begin with Sir Brailsford's marketting.

It doesn't matter how many teams want it, each bike manufacturer only gets pressure from the one or maybe two WT teams they sponsor, and that's not enough.

And when it comes to equipment it doesn't matter what used to happen, it matters what happens now. The days of running whatever frame you want as long as the right name iss painted on the downtube are long gone.