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by Leviathan

Re the rim brake guy...
Then don't ride them.
But leave your evangelical faith at the door, you're desperately boring, and you will only convince those who already are convinced.

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So you are of opinion that Moscon was racist one instant and otherwise is a nice guy? There are reports that the attitude is common and after the abuse of Reza he said his conscience is clear. He is un-apologetic.

Moscon has purposefully tried to crash and injure multiple riders, Reichenbach, Elie Gesbert, Debusschere and Haussler.

The sport and the world in general would be better without him.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/gianni- ... ls-kuurne/

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maquisard wrote:
Mockenrue wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:01 pm
maquisard wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:16 pm
Moscon, it would be a win for racists.

I wish him bad luck and misfortune and a crash
What a despicable thing to say. Not surprising coming from you.
I have no time for racists or those who create crashes for other riders.
Well, if Moscon was guilty of the type of monotheistic, vitriolic bias that YOU show toward anything Anglo-Saxon, you'd be right to call him a racist. Pot, meet Mr Kettle.

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To equate me poking fun at Ineos/Sky on a forum with real world abuse of people based on the color of their skin, it is to make small of the issue.

It is sad to see you support a racist. Very sad.

I will make no further comment on the Moscon.

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https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/sta ... 72321?s=21

Florian Vermeersch did 343W avg for 6h15m and finished it off with 18s@993W.

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maquisard wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:43 pm
So you are of opinion that Moscon was racist one instant and otherwise is a nice guy?
No-one said that. You have a strong enough case to dislike Moscon without having to make stuff up. Therefore, I have no idea why you feel you have to make stuff up to support your case. It has the opposite effect.

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Moscon never went on record with an apology to Reza. All there is is a PR statement by team Sky, that also says they threatened him with contract termination. What did he say, I'm sorry if anyone was offended?

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I was more shocked with lack of action from UCI or other teams than the incidents themselves (that the world is full of idiots, racists and people with anger issues is a mere cliche). my wild guess is it's got something to do with the team he's on, you know - the biggest, the richest, thus the most influencial, surpassing USPS in it's glory days by a country mile. the fact he is who he is, and apparently it's OK to be that way, makes him a lost case in my eyes - it would be sad indeed to watch him win that race, or any other race for that matter.
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2021 Paris Roubaix, mens race - 2903 photos from 7 sources:

link 1 - 1.8 gb zip file with 2903 photos
link 2 link 3 link 4 - same file, different host

womens race photos - viewtopic.php?f=14&t=164712&p=1706426#p1706426
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ooo wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:27 pm
2021 Paris Roubaix, mens race - 2903 photos from 7 sources:

link 1 - 1.8 gb zip file with 2903 photos
link 2 link 3 link 4 - same file, different host

womens race photos - viewtopic.php?f=14&t=164712&p=1706426#p1706426
These highlight how much better Tim de Waele is at getting the action shots than anyone else.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:28 pm
https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/sta ... 72321?s=21

Florian Vermeersch did 343W avg for 6h15m and finished it off with 18s@993W.
Crazy numbers at first, but he is a big guy. So not crazy, just amazing. :)
But his finish sprint power is crazy, VERY impressive. Had he waited a bit more, he could have won!

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:28 pm
https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/sta ... 72321?s=21

Florian Vermeersch did 343W avg for 6h15m and finished it off with 18s@993W.
No disrespect to Florian but those power numbers seem way too high. That number (382w NP) would be a figure for a 40-45km TT ridden by a powerful rider. And he did it for 6.25 hours?

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pdlpsher1 wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:18 am

No disrespect to Florian but those power numbers seem way too high. That number (382w NP) would be a figure for a 40-45km TT ridden by a powerful rider. And he did it for 6.25 hours?

He's 193cm and 85kg. His 6hr power was ~4w/kg

For reference, Ganna is 82kg and his "FTP" is probably ~490W, just shy of 6w/kg.

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by ave

Well, he has his 3rd place Worlds U23 ITT on Strava too.
He did 434W for 35 minutes. Compared to that, yes, 382w NP for 6 hours really seems high.

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by jasjas

maquisard wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:43 pm
So you are of opinion that Moscon was racist one instant and otherwise is a nice guy? There are reports that the attitude is common and after the abuse of Reza he said his conscience is clear. He is un-apologetic.

Moscon has purposefully tried to crash and injure multiple riders, Reichenbach, Elie Gesbert, Debusschere and Haussler.

The sport and the world in general would be better without him.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/03/gianni- ... ls-kuurne/
No bud, i don't know him, so i tend not to make such absolute judgements on people based on media reports, he is an attacking rider :smartass: and may even have won on Sunday, despite a puncture, a bike with 150psi in the tyres and a crash, still came in 4th.

I think its pretty sad you wish he wasn't even alive.

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