Why did Hambini get banned?
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Can someone provide the relation between B grade club racer and A grade club racer to U.S. racing, e.g., USA Cycling categories, Tuesday night office park training races, citizen races, or whatever?
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A grade/Div 1 is Cat1
B grade/Div2 is Cat2 fast Cat3 before they upgrade etc.
For example summer is always Tuesday night's at Sydney doing the Heffron Park handicap and Saturday afternoon scratch racing both with the locals lining up beside guys who race Cat1 when they head to the states to race Darylands etc and Guys why race on Conti teams etc with 100+ people on a good tuesday night with anyone form Lachlan Morton to Caleb Ewan turning up over Christmas if they're home seeing family for a Saturday arvo dig.
It's basically a goat track for the most part.
B grade/Div2 is Cat2 fast Cat3 before they upgrade etc.
For example summer is always Tuesday night's at Sydney doing the Heffron Park handicap and Saturday afternoon scratch racing both with the locals lining up beside guys who race Cat1 when they head to the states to race Darylands etc and Guys why race on Conti teams etc with 100+ people on a good tuesday night with anyone form Lachlan Morton to Caleb Ewan turning up over Christmas if they're home seeing family for a Saturday arvo dig.
It's basically a goat track for the most part.
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Cat3 - is Masters?Nefarious86 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:30 pmWell actually I'd be hiding in Cat3 right now if I was actually racing worried about my collarbones.
I'm looking at the Cycling Australia rulebook, page 9... https://data.cycling.org.au/sites/defau ... 020%20.pdf
Looks like Cat3 is Masters 40-44?
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I was using the US terminology for the collarbone joke.
We have Local/State, National and Masters grading systems lol. Hopefully over the next 12 month's the state bodies will be dissolved into a single national body and things will be a little less messy.
Age wise I'm a Cat1 masters rider 30-34
For non masters "Open" racing I was A grade/Div1.
We have from memory
Div 1-5 for All ages or open racing
Cat/Mas1-10 for masters racing.
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We have Local/State, National and Masters grading systems lol. Hopefully over the next 12 month's the state bodies will be dissolved into a single national body and things will be a little less messy.
Age wise I'm a Cat1 masters rider 30-34
For non masters "Open" racing I was A grade/Div1.
We have from memory
Div 1-5 for All ages or open racing
Cat/Mas1-10 for masters racing.
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Haha is that a squirrel reference or at least that is the reference we use for the Canadian Cat 4 class.Nefarious86 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:57 pmI was using the US terminology for the collarbone joke.
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I'd agree about the photo requests if they were just photo requests. But there's more to it than that.Ben689908 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:14 pmI think it was fair asking for "working" from Hambini. I'm also an Engineer and, yeh, that's how we critique work.
Constantly asking for photos of the testing setup when he clearly did the tests at work - i.e. an Airbus windtunnel - is naive, in all fairness. As if he has clearance to share photos of an Airbus windtunnel on here...
Hambini claimed to have wind-tunnel tested a lot of wheels in a short span of time--so many wheels in such a short period of time that one wonders whether he tested them in a wind tunnel at all.
And the guy created multiple WW accounts—he's not exactly a stickler for the rules, so why should we think he's concerned about Airbus "clearance?"
Also, it seems unlikely that Airbus has wind tunnels dedicated to low-speed testing. They might—maybe for drones or something—but it would help if he addressed this and explained why he was able to test wheels with such precision in a wind tunnel designed for air speeds 20 times faster than those seen by bicycle wheels.
Finally, the guy uses Solidworks Flow. This is not a serious CFD code. If he were using his employer's resources, he'd likely be using something like StarCD or Fluent--or a proprietary code. If he can't use a sophisticated CFD code via his employer, he probably doesn't have wind tunnel access either.
Or maybe he does—this is just one example among many of questions Hambini refuses to answer. IME, people on the up-and-up generally answer reasonable questions.
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Might it make sense to put ban notices in a thread with no comments allowed? Then bans would at least be in the public record (so to speak) and we could all see the reasons.
It's just a thought—what do you guys think?
I have a hard time believing that any multi billion dollar conglomerate would allow some random employee to exploit company resources for personal gain. I have to imagine that facility is used regularly during business hours...for actual company product testing. An employee regularly accessing a facility outside of business hours would be a serious cause of concern as it pertains to security and clearances. Really.youngs_modulus wrote:I'd agree about the photo requests if they were just photo requests. But there's more to it than that.Ben689908 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:14 pmI think it was fair asking for "working" from Hambini. I'm also an Engineer and, yeh, that's how we critique work.
Constantly asking for photos of the testing setup when he clearly did the tests at work - i.e. an Airbus windtunnel - is naive, in all fairness. As if he has clearance to share photos of an Airbus windtunnel on here...
Hambini claimed to have wind-tunnel tested a lot of wheels in a short span of time--so many wheels in such a short period of time that one wonders whether he tested them in a wind tunnel at all.
And the guy created multiple WW accounts—he's not exactly a stickler for the rules, so why should we think he's concerned about Airbus "clearance?"
Also, it seems unlikely that Airbus has wind tunnels dedicated to low-speed testing. They might—maybe for drones or something—but it would help if he addressed this and explained why he was able to test wheels with such precision in a wind tunnel designed for air speeds 20 times faster than those seen by bicycle wheels.
Finally, the guy uses Solidworks Flow. This is not a serious CFD code. If he were using his employer's resources, he'd likely be using something like StarCD or Fluent--or a proprietary code. If he can't use a sophisticated CFD code via his employer, he probably doesn't have wind tunnel access either.
Or maybe he does—this is just one example among many of questions Hambini refuses to answer. IME, people on the up-and-up generally answer reasonable questions.
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Might it make sense to put ban notices in a thread with no comments allowed? Then bans would at least be in the public record (so to speak) and we could all see the reasons.
It's just a thought—what do you guys think?
I have to wonder if Airbus is aware of his activities.
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Because he doesn't want to get canned. Creating multiple WW accounts and getting banned from an internet forum is one thing; falling foul of aviation/military/Secrets Act regulations (I don't know the proper terminology, I don't work in aviation, aerospace or the military) and getting canned from your job is quite the other.youngs_modulus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:34 amAnd the guy created multiple WW accounts—he's not exactly a stickler for the rules, so why should we think he's concerned about Airbus "clearance?"
If he had permission, then like with all other work that Airbus do... "no photos". If he didn't have permission, then you can certainly understand why he wouldn't post photographic evidence of any wrongdoing on the internet.
None of this is difficult to understand, IMO. However I don't condone the multiple forum usernames, petty arguments (from any board member) or Engineering results without working shown!
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If you want to help our forum, please take the time to report Hambini’s post on yt, it is completely against the community guidelines.
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Get a better employer.LeDuke wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:21 amI have a hard time believing that any multi billion dollar conglomerate would allow some random employee to exploit company resources for personal gain. I have to imagine that facility is used regularly during business hours...for actual company product testing. An employee regularly accessing a facility outside of business hours would be a serious cause of concern as it pertains to security and clearances. Really.
I'm allowed to use work facilities for personal development and projects, if i can show that it develops me and my knowledge and has some relevance to my roll.
Aero testing of multiple wheel sets will meet those criteria. DoE, Statistical analysis, fluid dynamics, wind tunnel set up and operation, data collection. I'd sign off on one of my staff using works equipment to do something like this. (If there was sufficient downtime, there isn't at the moment!)
Also, He's not selling anything relating to this either, so no personal gain, except knowledge and experience.
you can't even get into the area where the wind tunnels are with out extra clearance signed off by several senior managers here, and we're not anywhere near as secure as aero (or defence)
Not to mention that you need 2 or 3 people to even run a proper tunnel.
He doesn't come across well though. Should be left to his own devices, 2 or 3 layers of staff between him and the public.
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Why do people get banned?
Because like in a cycling race, no rider is bigger than the race's rules.
And I agree that heated discussions should be stopped ASAP. They mostly lead to nothing: those who react lose time and energy, and those who read it feel like they lost time and energy. This place should be a fun and constructive place above all.
Being a moderator is a very ungrateful task. Thanks for doing it!
Because like in a cycling race, no rider is bigger than the race's rules.
And I agree that heated discussions should be stopped ASAP. They mostly lead to nothing: those who react lose time and energy, and those who read it feel like they lost time and energy. This place should be a fun and constructive place above all.
Being a moderator is a very ungrateful task. Thanks for doing it!
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I guess if he has clearance to use an Airbus wind tunnes for bike wheel testing, he should also have clearance to post picturesBen689908 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:14 pmI think it was fair asking for "working" from Hambini. I'm also an Engineer and, yeh, that's how we critique work.
Constantly asking for photos of the testing setup when he clearly did the tests at work - i.e. an Airbus windtunnel - is naive, in all fairness. As if he has clearance to share photos of an Airbus windtunnel on here...
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It's quite the dumpster fire. Apparently I'm a racist because I didn't check 46266 profiles for derogatory terms...robbosmans wrote:If you want to help our forum, please take the time to report Hambini’s post on yt, it is completely against the community guidelines.
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No, that’s very normal, often part of collaboration with engineering schools.LeDuke wrote: I have a hard time believing that any multi billion dollar conglomerate would allow some random employee to exploit company resources for personal gain. I have to imagine that facility is used regularly during business hours...for actual company product testing. An employee regularly accessing a facility outside of business hours would be a serious cause of concern as it pertains to security and clearances. Really.
I have to wonder if Airbus is aware of his activities.
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Back then, I regularly used Airbus autoclaves for carbon parts, used a wind tunnel to test Shell-marathon cars shapes, got a recumbent titanium bike made there. So that wouldn’t surprise me too much and that was as an engineering student.
Can expand the Airbus example to other aeronautics companies, Naval defense or car industries I am familiar with.
Now that doesn’t remove 4 things
- he is right on the transient testing part of things
- we have no control on if / how he tested the wheels
- he should have stick to facts...
- ... even if the vast majority of the people intervening have no scientific background to engage the discussion. And some have interest in discrédit his work.
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