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Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 am
by Andrew69
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Has life really changed for you?

Not a lot has changed for me (in construction) apart from having to check in everywhere and wear a mask indoors and outdoors (apart from when exercising)

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 am
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Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
by Conza
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Within 15km now... for a certain amount of capped time.

It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health - literally 0 'public health' signals in terms of: improving metabolic health e.g. exercise, not eating shite junk etc. etc.

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:51 am
by TobinHatesYou
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Within 15km now... for a certain amount of capped time.

It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health - literally 0 'public health' signals in terms of: improving metabolic health e.g. exercise, not eating shite junk etc. etc.

It's based on vector control. Stop throwing out big words like tyranny.

Obesity, laziness, heart disease, etc. are not infectious diseases.

Australia is doing fairly well considering its vaccine rollout was a bit slow, maybe you can figure out why.

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:56 am
by Conza
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:51 am
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Within 15km now... for a certain amount of capped time.

It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health - literally 0 'public health' signals in terms of: improving metabolic health e.g. exercise, not eating shite junk etc. etc.

It's based on vector control. Stop throwing out big words like tyranny.

Obesity, laziness, heart disease, etc. are not infectious diseases.

Australia is doing fairly well considering its vaccine rollout was a bit slow, maybe you can figure out why.
Putting millions of healthy individuals under mass house arrest without trial for months on end isn't tyrannical? :lol: Guess you haven't popped your head out of the sand long enough to see how the world has been reacting to the variety of events the last few months here?

CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese

Anyone who doesn't think being metabolically healthier all else being equal is an absolute dunce.

Perhaps your valuation of 'fairly well' is considerably myopic & is only factored on cases/deaths WITH covid, as opposed to from and I all other increases in death & destruction as a RESULT of lockdowns, aye?

Maybe if you figured out what a valid perspective is i.e. holistic, not myopic - then you'd figure out why.

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:39 pm
by ultimobici
Conza wrote:Putting millions of healthy individuals under mass house arrest without trial for months on end isn't tyrannical? :lol: Guess you haven't popped your head out of the sand long enough to see how the world has been reacting to the variety of events the last few months here?
When people are trusted to “act responsibly” & “do the right thing” they don’t. Look at how the UK is compared to countries with more restrictions. The UK has a hands off approach compared to Italy, and as a consequence 10 times the new infection rate.

The restrictions you are under limit the interactions where the virus can be transmitted. Once the population has been vaccinated to a significant level, restrictions can be lifted.


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Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:13 pm
by 5DII
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Within 15km now... for a certain amount of capped time.

It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health - literally 0 'public health' signals in terms of: improving metabolic health e.g. exercise, not eating shite junk etc. etc.
Public health agencies worldwide have advocated for healthy eating, exerise, healthy weight, etc. for decades. It is on their website if you look. Not looking does not mean it does not exist. The current restrictions are in addition to these lifestyle measures which have always existed.

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:06 pm
by Conza
ultimobici wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:39 pm
Conza wrote:Putting millions of healthy individuals under mass house arrest without trial for months on end isn't tyrannical? :lol: Guess you haven't popped your head out of the sand long enough to see how the world has been reacting to the variety of events the last few months here?
When people are trusted to “act responsibly” & “do the right thing” they don’t. Look at how the UK is compared to countries with more restrictions. The UK has a hands off approach compared to Italy, and as a consequence 10 times the new infection rate.

The restrictions you are under limit the interactions where the virus can be transmitted. Once the population has been vaccinated to a significant level, restrictions can be lifted.
Absolutely laughable. How dumb can you be... to believe that. Reality: lockdowns don't work.

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5DII wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:13 pm
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Within 15km now... for a certain amount of capped time.

It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health - literally 0 'public health' signals in terms of: improving metabolic health e.g. exercise, not eating shite junk etc. etc.
Public health agencies worldwide have advocated for healthy eating, exerise, healthy weight, etc. for decades. It is on their website if you look. Not looking does not mean it does not exist. The current restrictions are in addition to these lifestyle measures which have always existed.
:lol: completely devoid of being mentioned all through out this lockdown crisis. Better health and something individuals themselves can actually control? Nah, fear porn and blaming others thanks.

Truly though, on your terms, how's that going for everybody?

Perhaps because they're pushing moronically inept/flawed paradigms? Perhaps to the ultimate point; the state should be separated from not only the bedroom, boardroom, and now kitchen, gym etc.

Who do you think writes/influences these 'state /'public' policies?

https://youtu.be/Wj9_zEXOrDw


https://youtu.be/EttBlf0DGLc

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:37 pm
by 5DII
Conza wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:06 pm
ultimobici wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:39 pm
Conza wrote:Putting millions of healthy individuals under mass house arrest without trial for months on end isn't tyrannical? :lol: Guess you haven't popped your head out of the sand long enough to see how the world has been reacting to the variety of events the last few months here?
When people are trusted to “act responsibly” & “do the right thing” they don’t. Look at how the UK is compared to countries with more restrictions. The UK has a hands off approach compared to Italy, and as a consequence 10 times the new infection rate.

The restrictions you are under limit the interactions where the virus can be transmitted. Once the population has been vaccinated to a significant level, restrictions can be lifted.
Absolutely laughable. How dumb can you be... to believe that. Reality: lockdowns don't work.

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5DII wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:13 pm
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
synchronicity wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:39 am
We are still in lockdown. But you can still exercise outside.
Within 15km now... for a certain amount of capped time.

It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health - literally 0 'public health' signals in terms of: improving metabolic health e.g. exercise, not eating shite junk etc. etc.
Public health agencies worldwide have advocated for healthy eating, exerise, healthy weight, etc. for decades. It is on their website if you look. Not looking does not mean it does not exist. The current restrictions are in addition to these lifestyle measures which have always existed.
:lol: completely devoid of being mentioned all through out this lockdown crisis. Better health and something individuals themselves can actually control? Nah, fear porn and blaming others thanks.

Truly though, on your terms, how's that going for everybody?

Perhaps because they're pushing moronically inept/flawed paradigms? Perhaps to the ultimate point; the state should be separated from not only the bedroom, boardroom, and now kitchen, gym etc.

Who do you think writes/influences these 'state /'public' policies?

https://youtu.be/Wj9_zEXOrDw


https://youtu.be/EttBlf0DGLc
Public health agencies promote healthy eating and exercise at baseline. The current restrictions are on top of that.
Even in the midst of the pandemic the WHO has promoted healthy eating and exercise: https://www.who.int/campaigns/connectin ... althy-diet

Your graphs do not prove lockdowns don't work. To prove it, you would have to show graphs in identical situations comparing lockdown to no lockdown. How do we know if cases/deaths/hospitalizations would not have been even higher without it? You're displaying correlational data which does not prove causation. Further, notice lockdowns were implemented when cases were rising. They are to slow down the logarthimic increase to prevent hospital overloads. Do you have any background in stats or science?

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:07 pm
by Mr.Gib
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health
Says the guy that presents a chart that shows lockdowns don't work with no data about what would happen without lockdowns. I guess there are clowns like this in Australia too. So much fear, so much anger, so much ignorance. FWIW the main reason lockdowns aren't more effective is because people don't follow the rules.

@Conza, does this mean you willl have a criminal record? after all you are under house arrest. :D

New research published today showing subsequent variants are becoming more deadly and more contagious. Get used to it people. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... ve-strain/

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:01 pm
by OnTheRivet
Mr.Gib wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:07 pm
Conza wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 am
It's moronic, not based on science, and tyrannical. Dumb AF and not about health
Says the guy that presents a chart that shows lockdowns don't work with no data about what would happen without lockdowns. I guess there are clowns like this in Australia too. So much fear, so much anger, so much ignorance. FWIW the main reason lockdowns aren't more effective is because people don't follow the rules.

@Conza, does this mean you willl have a criminal record? after all you are under house arrest. :D

New research published today showing subsequent variants are becoming more deadly and more contagious. Get used to it people. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... ve-strain/
You are killing grandma, oh wait, the Melbourne police have that handled. They're beating you for your own health, don't you understand that? https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 8a512ac730

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:53 pm
by OnTheRivet
When Poland talks Totalitarianism people should listem. Polish MP's outside the Australian embassy in Poland.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1444262382839160842

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:50 pm
by Mr.Gib
OnTheRivet wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:19 pm
And I'll leave this thread...
:P

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:18 am
by MoPho
OnTheRivet wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:01 pm

You are killing grandma, oh wait, the Melbourne police have that handled. They're beating you for your own health, don't you understand that? https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 8a512ac730
Australian news article wrote:Six police officers were taken to hospital with serious injuries after Sunday’s protests. Their injuries included torn muscles, a broken elbow, a broken nose and a broken finger.
Sounds like the government got it worse than grandma :roll:

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:17 am
by Andrew69
The Aussies in this thread complaining have it so good they have no clue how bad it could be
Maybe take a look at what's is happening in Texas
Similar population (29 mil for Texas vs 25 for Oz) yet they have had over 66,600 vs 1346
I know where I would rather live

Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:17 am
by Weenie

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Re: Virus And Riding.

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:17 pm
by mrlobber
In my country where vaccination rates are among the lowest in the EU, after a pretty easy summer, the delta is now on a rampage with overall infections already surpassing those of peak January this year and hospitals warning of imminent collapse. We've had some mild restrictions (which many didn't obey anyway, in fact, the antivaxx crowd rallied behind a couple of new political parties with all the traditional arguments of totalitarianism etc, we've seen those already elsewhere), and now the government has a choice which is going to be wildly unpopular for roughly a half of population in any case: either try imposing a complete lockdown or keep doing nothing; obviously, they just declared they have made no decision yet... tragic crisis management incompetence, but again, nothing new all over the world.