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AJS914 wrote:Interesting that Bernal's average ride is 160km (100mi) and Lachlan Morton, who rides more frequently, is averaging 91km per (56 mi).
One of them will be racing down under which likely impacted the mileage


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Karvalo wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:47 am
spud wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:25 pm
^ very interesting. Is this a realization that there's too much friction on the 10 cog, so they just treat it as a throw away? Meaning, 11 speeds really was enough, 12 either gives you an extreme gear you don't need, or fills a hole that doesn't need filling?
Must be something like that. High gear equivalent bigger than a 59x11. When would it ever be used?
On a mild descent or after a high speed descent...but at least it creates an advantage, now they just need to start selling those chainrings.

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AJS914 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:11 pm
Interesting that Bernal's average ride is 160km (100mi) and Lachlan Morton, who rides more frequently, is averaging 91km per (56 mi).
Morton has also been running a lot lately.

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Strade’s White Roads and Milan – San Remo in Van der Poel’s 2020 Plans
https://www.cxmagazine.com/mathieu-van- ... n-san-remo

Kinda think he is well suited to Strade
Will be interesting to see him in San Remo too...heck will be
interesting no matter what he races :wink:

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I love how Wout van Aert's use of ride descriptions (emojis included) on Strava.

"Long day in the saddle with the king, the captain, the maillot jaune, the condor & the butterfly"

https://www.strava.com/activities/3016557083/overview


So who is the king, the captain, the maillot jaune, the condor and the butterfly?

I know that Teunissen was the first Dutch man to wear the yellow jersey.

On the ride:

Robert Gesink
Mike Teunissen
Maarten Wynants
Amund Jansen

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spud wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:41 pm
Dan Gerous wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:03 pm
He and a few others started using standard chainring sizes last season, but not a production looking one-piece part like this, they just machined a few sets of bolt-on chainrings.

Also interesting, most kilometres ridden by pros since Christmas, the list was originally only men but Annemiek Van Vleuten was added... almost at the top!

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Seems like a rookie mistake for her to be piling up that many miles so early in the season - if the men aren't doing it, she probably shouldn't either, even if she has early season goals. How many women have we seen go from absolutely dominant (across different disciplines) to 100% burned out or worse?
Rookie mistake?
Annemiek van Vleuten?
I might call her other things but rookie is not one of them.

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spud wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:41 pm
Dan Gerous wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:03 pm
He and a few others started using standard chainring sizes last season, but not a production looking one-piece part like this, they just machined a few sets of bolt-on chainrings.

Also interesting, most kilometres ridden by pros since Christmas, the list was originally only men but Annemiek Van Vleuten was added... almost at the top!

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Seems like a rookie mistake for her to be piling up that many miles so early in the season - if the men aren't doing it, she probably shouldn't either, even if she has early season goals. How many women have we seen go from absolutely dominant (across different disciplines) to 100% burned out or worse?
If only she had a whole team of coaches to assist her.

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spud wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:41 pm

Seems like a rookie mistake for her to be piling up that many miles so early in the season - if the men aren't doing it, she probably shouldn't either, even if she has early season goals. How many women have we seen go from absolutely dominant (across different disciplines) to 100% burned out or worse?

Subconscious sexism detected. Men are doing it. It's on the freaking chart. Turns out winter Z2 / base training is not that hard on the body and you still reap the aerobic benefits.

AJS914 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:11 pm
Interesting that Bernal's average ride is 160km (100mi) and Lachlan Morton, who rides more frequently, is averaging 91km per (56 mi).

Anything over 2 hours for base work is pretty effective, so it doesn't really matter how they divvy the mileage. Barring some intangibles like training your legs not to cramp over long distances and other stuff we just don't really have a good understanding of, Z2 mileage is Z2 mileage.

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Marianne Vos, Sanne Cant and Pauline Ferrand-Prevot might have a different opinion about how much training/racing to do.

Remember when the experts prescribed 500+ mile weeks to national team juniors, like team USA did back in the early 90's? Yeah, that worked out really well for them. One season entirely blown in terms of results, and who knows how many excellent riders simply washed out of the sport at that time.

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I was on some of those roads Bernal has been using lately while on vacation in September, some nice places to ride. Quite a few non winners of the Tour out and about too.

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spud wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:30 pm
Marianne Vos, Sanne Cant and Pauline Ferrand-Prevot might have a different opinion about how much training/racing to do.

Remember when the experts prescribed 500+ mile weeks to national team juniors, like team USA did back in the early 90's? Yeah, that worked out really well for them. One season entirely blown in terms of results, and who knows how many excellent riders simply washed out of the sport at that time.

:roll:

The current hotness is doing a shitload of Z2 in the off-season since the higher zones aren't actually any better for training aerobic fitness. Annemiek seems to be following that CW. Before her target races, she will probably ramp up the high-intensity over 4-5 weeks. Sorry if you didn't get the memo. Ironman athletes have ascribed to high-volume / low-intensity forever...with CTLs >150-200 and TSS >1200-1700. They just skip the high-intensity ramp at the end.

PFP just had another surgery on her wonky iliac artery so of course her mileage is down.
Sanne Cant has been racing lots of CX.
Marianne Vos is a bit of a freak and can do whatever she wants.
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spud wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:30 pm
Marianne Vos, Sanne Cant and Pauline Ferrand-Prevot might have a different opinion about how much training/racing to do.
Oh come off it. Ferrand-Prevot burned out at 23 while juggling 3 different disciplines. Van-Vleuten is 37 with a lifetime of riding experience and over a decade as a World Tour pro in the bank. There's a difference.

Would anyone here dare to suggest that a male veteran like Valverde or Hansen had no idea how to manage their training loads? I doubt it.

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Also. 37 and making rookie mistakes with her palmaeres?

Vos has also just had surgery.

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what do yal think of that article about colin strickland turning town a neo pro contract (and riding Paris Rouabaix) to continue riding adventure rides as a privateer?
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nathanong87 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:54 am
what do yal think of that article about colin strickland turning town a neo pro contract (and riding Paris Rouabaix) to continue riding adventure rides as a privateer?

Makes sense for him as he's already sponsored by several brands that would be at odds with a combined EF Pro Cycling sponsorship package. He's on top of the gravel world, and that's not a bad place to be.

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