Not all carbon bikes are created equal: Inside Factor's Taiwanese HQ

[robertbb]

Italian production is the pits. Incredile designers and engineers - deplorable QC and attention to detail. Including some stuff I've seen from Campy lately.

The ideal would be:
Engineered in Germany
Designed in Italy
Manufactured in Japan

[Leviathan]

and sweeping generalizations from Australia, perhaps?

[robertbb]

Bit salty in Spain?

[Nefarious86]

Don't you know, speaking Ill of blind Italian passion or Time frames is frowned upon in these parts

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[micky]

Everyone is entitled of an opinion, but aren't moderators supposed to chill things off?

[spdntrxi]

Everyone is entitled of an opinion, but aren't moderators supposed to chill things off?

he's human and sick of the euro high end I'm better stance.

[velov]

@Leviathan
Focus on the compliment...you'd have to be a blind fanboy to dispute the rest of the comment.