Some manufacturers forcing pros onto disk brakes for the 2019 season

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It would be an idiotic question to ask a pro!
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liam7020 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:51 pm
It would be an idiotic question to ask a pro!

contex.. lewn777 is under the impression that a retired pro that is under no contract is all knowing (in a nutshell). Others and I disagree. I know it sucks to read every post, but to get the gravity of the statement on this one.... you kinda have too.
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There’s 3 professional opinions: in favor, indifferent, not in favor.

Indifference is where most pros are. In favor is second biggest at this point. The number of pros that don’t want disc brakes in the peloton is probably in the teens.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:08 am
Sagan doesn't usually win sprints in the "not actually the TDU" because 1) he's not even a pure sprinter like Ewan and 2) he needs to peak for the spring classics not the first race on the calendar. Meanwhile nobody should be surprised that Aussie riders / teams care more about hometown races.
This pretty much what I was thinking when watching that sprint between Sagan and Ewan.
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TobinHatesYou wrote:There’s 3 professional opinions: in favor, indifferent, not in favor.

Indifference is where most pros are. In favor is second biggest at this point. The number of pros that don’t want disc brakes in the peloton is probably in the teens.
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Curious how do you base the “in favour are second biggest”. Not saying it’s impossible, I don’t have numbers representative of « the pros » but the ones I know (or publicly announced them) are more against.
- Movistar 3 leaders are dead against it with comments like « good let others use it ». (Source from within the team)
- Terpstra requested the team not to use disc brakes when they use them last year (but not clear if specific to Paris Roubaix or for the entire year (source from a french newspaper during PR preparation camp)
- sky, they evaluated it with Pinarello and “don’t see the benefit” (source Pinarello engineer)
- Trek segafredo, know two riders who “hope be able to use the rim bike later during the season”. I had some positive feed back from other riders, 2 from the female team.




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spdntrxi wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:21 pm
liam7020 wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:51 pm
It would be an idiotic question to ask a pro!

contex.. lewn777 is under the impression that a retired pro that is under no contract is all knowing (in a nutshell). Others and I disagree. I know it sucks to read every post, but to get the gravity of the statement on this one.... you kinda have too.
No, I'm under the impression that a long term pro that had retired after maybe having had a 15-20 year cycling career with team changes would have a pretty good idea what cycle components they'd like to have on a bike when they are not under team obligation. Someone that has possibly ridden with different teams and may have used all sorts of different components and frames. Their choice of tires, saddle and group-set would be interesting.

This would be a much better indication of what's good than someone than sudo-science marketing, or by looking at a current sponsored pro's bike.

Of course any long term serious cyclist probably as just as good or in some cases an even better idea. However this would come down to the individual. Some pros stay on the same team for years, some amateurs stay with the same bike for years.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:11 pm
There’s 3 professional opinions: in favor, indifferent, not in favor.

Indifference is where most pros are. In favor is second biggest at this point. The number of pros that don’t want disc brakes in the peloton is probably in the teens.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqv6wSgmHE/
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Indifference is where most pros are. In favor is second biggest at this point. The number of pros that don’t want disc brakes in the peloton and openly admit it is probably in the teens.

IMO your 'indifferent' group contains many that don't want disk brakes. If your career relies on keeping sponsors happy it's not going to be good to question their choices openly, however honest opinions might be different. Tom Boonen keeping his sponsors happy is evidence of nothing whatsoever nor is your zero evidence based groupings of pro opinion.

Surely you must realize that pros sign contracts. The biggest thing for the pro is not not bring the sponsors into disrepute and essentially be their ambassadors. Are you really that soft headed you think that Peter Segan likes German made kitchen extractor units too?

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It sure is convenient to dismiss any pro-disc mention as commercial obligation. Check the rest of Boonen's IG to see how much he shills products (not at all.)

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This is Peter Sagan's favorite shower unit. He has the choice of many, but he chooses this. There are other shower units, but without this one he wouldn't win all the races he does, he says it's the best. You should immediately order one online and pay a plumber and then a bathroom decorator at huge expense to remove your old inferior bathroom shower head and replace it with this one. This is how the best cyclists are made.
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Lewn777 wrote:
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Clearly the message is that he would rather be riding a polished Titanium bike so you need one too! :thumbup:


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MoPho wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:15 am
Lewn777 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:44 am
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Clearly the message is that he would rather be riding a polished Titanium bike so you need one too! :thumbup:


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I'm sure it's chrome plated steel. Steel's real. :thumbup:

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Lewn777 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:36 am

I'm sure it's chrome plated steel. Steel's real. :thumbup:
Lies! Pros don't ride steel so it can't be good. :twisted:


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Who cares what pro riders ride or are forced to ride?
Make your own choice according to your own needs and desires.
I'm not a pro: I ride slower on roads with traffic, often smaller roads, have no team car behind me with spare wheels, I use my brakes a lot more, hve to pay my own rims if they are worn out,... so I have totally different needs and won't copy what they ride.

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