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by ghostinthemachine

Just have to look at some of the deals done with the "breakaway kings", rarely win but spend hours front and centre of the TV screen.
Same with personable but otherwise very "average" riders. As a pro you can do yourself a lot of favour, and add a lot to your value as a team member by playing the game, doing the press circuit, interacting with fans.

Social media is a big thing now. I can see some riders in the not too distant future using their number of IG/Facebook/youtube followers as additional leverage for better contracts. Or for (well) paid posts. (Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they already were!)

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commercial deals might actually pay better than a team. sure, cyclists are not that marketable so to speak, at least not yet. but often it's a question of finding a right person for the right product - for instance I still remember Farrar's "Transition" lenses ads, imho that was a very neat campaign.
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icantaffordcycling wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:10 am
https://youtu.be/ZDhKXMjMkuc?t=961

Is telling your rivals incorrect information commonplace in professional cycling?
probably not common because professional teams and riders would be well informed via radio and or race knowledge. It's clear that the EFs DS and Mike woods are not. lol

and hilariously if i was in mollemas shoes, i'd tell woods the exacts same thing "one more lap"

boggles my mind how woods would even ask that question but similarly how the DS would have said this IS the lap u need to sprint.
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I saw a photo of Haussler today riding on belgian cobbles, Merida bike and I think Vision wheels. Could have been a test day. Any news about 2020 Bahrain Mclaren equipment? There were rumors about riding a "Mclaren" frame

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Mathieu van der Poel wins the CX European champisonships again... BAU.
Beats a gang of 5 Belgians taking turns attacking him .. BAU.

Crosses the finish line in his world champ jersey which is mostly white in conditions which was described as goopy mud... with pretty much not a splash of mud anywhere to be seen.

WHAT THE ACTUAL F***! Now that is inhuman.

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sychen wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:08 am
Mathieu van der Poel wins the CX European champisonships again... BAU.
Beats a gang of 5 Belgians taking turns attacking him .. BAU.

It was a good race although not really that muddy

I think Eli Iserbyt made Mathieu van der Poel work harder than I have seen before swapping 1st a few times
& finished only +3 seconds back

Was really a good race to watch :beerchug:

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flying wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:50 am
sychen wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:08 am
Mathieu van der Poel wins the CX European champisonships again... BAU.
Beats a gang of 5 Belgians taking turns attacking him .. BAU.

It was a good race although not really that muddy

I think Eli Iserbyt made Mathieu van der Poel work harder than I have seen before swapping 1st a few times
& finished only +3 seconds back

Was really a good race to watch :beerchug:

Exactly, it was a quite tight race. VdP had to fight till the end to win.
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Rohan Dennis’s €1 million decision

https://www.velonews.com/2019/11/news/r ... 6pbM2DO9Q4

Sorry for him but ....IMO....ultimately he has only himself to blame if it all goes south.

Yes an elite athletes career is very short & yes he wants things done a certain way ...but
at the end of the day "despite all his rage he is still just a rat in a cage"
aka: employee & needs to conduct himself as such

Other Teams/Employers may now see him as difficult & despite his obvious talent decide against the risk of handling/hiring him

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Take the €250k contract but request significant performance bonuses if he can deliver...

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flying wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am
Rohan Dennis’s €1 million decision

https://www.velonews.com/2019/11/news/r ... 6pbM2DO9Q4

Sorry for him but ....IMO....ultimately he has only himself to blame if it all goes south.

Yes an elite athletes career is very short & yes he wants things done a certain way ...but
at the end of the day "despite all his rage he is still just a rat in a cage"
aka: employee & needs to conduct himself as such

Other Teams/Employers may now see him as difficult & despite his obvious talent decide against the risk of handling/hiring him
Dennis stood on principle and did what he believed he should but there can often be a price to pay for doing that. If he's happy to pay that price then more power to him but no one should be at all surprised that potential employers are very wary of him now.

I would imagine the negative publicity accrued to the Merida brand due to the perception that Dennis walked out on his contract because he didn't want to use the bike will resonate in the minds of consumers for far longer than the positive publicity of a WC TT win would have done.


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. McLaren, the new co-sponsor for 2020, sent its top team representative from England to Southern France for the day and staff anxiously awaited the possibility of an important stage win.
I'd be black balling RD if I were BM as well. That's so embarassing.

I wonder if Merida would've agreed if he raced with that Blacked out BMC as well just to get it over with. He at least would have BM on his jersey.

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It's also not helping him that the Tour has a single ITT this year and it's an uphill ITT. There also isn't a TTT. What role would he play in this hilly Tour?

The Giro has three ITTs. A team wanting to do well at the Giro might want him there but he'd have to ride their team bike.

What big team these days wants a TT specialist that isn't a GC contendor?

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AJS914 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:51 pm
It's also not helping him that the Tour has a single ITT this year and it's an uphill ITT. There also isn't a TTT. What role would he play in this hilly Tour?

The Giro has three ITTs. A team wanting to do well at the Giro might want him there but he'd have to ride their team bike.

What big team these days wants a TT specialist that isn't a GC contendor?
Well he has been on a (let me check my notes) a four or five year program to transform himself into a grand tour GC contender so maybe 2020 is the year when it all comes good. He could be a winner of a few high mountain stages come this time next year... or not.

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