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Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:56 am
by Wookski
Haydn wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:26 pm
Commence the dark months, worst part of the year
Speak for yourself, things are warming up down here in the antipodes (not that they were ever that cold anyway)

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:56 am
by Weenie

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:15 pm
by outnumbered
Good to see Mollema finally win another big race today, even though he is horrible to watch on the bike :D

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:40 pm
by Kjetil
Pretty it ain't. Great win though, splendidly timed sustained attack. I have this idea that Lombardia should be won solo.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:50 pm
by KB
Sometimes fortune favours the brave. Happily it did today. Very pleased for Mollema. He went for it and didn't pussyfoot around.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:25 am
by g32ecs
Haydn wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:26 pm
Commence the dark months, worst part of the year
In just 14 weeks it's going to be TDU. Pretty short time if you think of it. That's 1 solid training block.

Anyway I couldnt be any happier for Mollema. Always the bridesmaid never the bride. Maybe his career is like GVA? I remember when GVA was in BMC and just couldnt muster it until that year when he just figured it all out. He may have regressed a bit this yr but he's won big races already.

Trek must be so happy to close their yr this way. Damn. A World Championship and a Classic.

And he's right. He was underestimated. That group was probably the strongest chasing group in the entire 2019 that they took each other's power for granted until it was too late.

Can someone clarify how did Nibali end up at the back? I know he had that slight touch up but even before that he was playing catch up. He has nowhere to go and he just jammed himself in and they were going uphill.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:44 pm
by LouisN
Trek has also been very active in signing new talent at the WC.

LOuis :)

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:10 pm
by Dan Gerous
g32ecs wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:25 am
Haydn wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:26 pm
Commence the dark months, worst part of the year
In just 14 weeks it's going to be TDU. Pretty short time if you think of it. That's 1 solid training block.

Anyway I couldnt be any happier for Mollema. Always the bridesmaid never the bride. Maybe his career is like GVA? I remember when GVA was in BMC and just couldnt muster it until that year when he just figured it all out. He may have regressed a bit this yr but he's won big races already.

Trek must be so happy to close their yr this way. Damn. A World Championship and a Classic.

And he's right. He was underestimated. That group was probably the strongest chasing group in the entire 2019 that they took each other's power for granted until it was too late.

Can someone clarify how did Nibali end up at the back? I know he had that slight touch up but even before that he was playing catch up. He has nowhere to go and he just jammed himself in and they were going uphill.
Nibali was riding near the back when he rode on a water bottle, that's what almost made him crash I think, then had to catch up... but the reason he was already towards the back is just because he wasn't at his best, he said he was just tired from a long season and didn't have the legs.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:28 pm
by nathanong87
mollema knee he needed to pay sram and trek back for his etap product review mid race that was caught on camera haha.

also WC and now Lombardia paid trek back for the apologies for woeful spring classics season hehe

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:10 pm
by Rondje
g32ecs wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:25 am
Haydn wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:26 pm
Commence the dark months, worst part of the year
Anyway I couldnt be any happier for Mollema. Always the bridesmaid never the bride. Maybe his career is like GVA? I remember when GVA was in BMC and just couldnt muster it until that year when he just figured it all out. He may have regressed a bit this yr but he's won big races already.
I agree that he isn't often the bride, but winning a TDF and Vuelta stage, San Sebastian and now Il Lombardia are still pretty solid results for a sub-top GC rider. And let's not forget he is a world champion in mixed relay ;) A rider like Molema need's some luck to win, everything needs to align and he needs to get some sort of "freedom" like this Lombardia. I don't expect this to be a big turn around for him. He lacks the acceleration to follow the big guys when they go so he needs to anticipate.

I'm very happy that he won though! Very deserved for a rider like Molema, a guy with 2 faces, a passive follower in GC's, but attacker when he is not riding for a GC.
After a long period without wins, the current talented generation of Dutch riders have won P-R, LBL, RVV and now Il Lombardia, just MSR left and they won all monuments since 2014. It's not since the 80's that we were this successful.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:46 am
by Kjetil
Nice summary, Rondje.

I like this "new" Paris-Tours. Good to watch.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:00 am
by Antoine
Kjetil wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:46 am
I like this "new" Paris-Tours. Good to watch.
I guess Wallays watched Lombardia and was inspired by Mollema.
Not as many puncture as last year but still many, notably Tepstra who had at least 2 .
FDJ had the strongest team , but when Kung and Sarreau punctured in a bad moment, only Démare was left and he couldn't hold Naesen and Tepstra.
They used all the domestique to make a good selection, but it didn't work.
May be a Quickstep style strategy would have been better, like sending a strong Sinkeldam up the road when they were still 4 and wait for the other teams to bring him back, then send Kung with still Sarreau and Démare left.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:20 am
by micky
I couldn't follow Paris-Tour but just saw few bits; is it true that Tersptra had to wait longer for the wheel change due to disc wheel?

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:43 pm
by Dan Gerous
2020 Tour de France stage profiles side by side, the climbers will like it. Only one TT (stage 20)and it finishes up La Planche des Belles Filles.

Image

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:01 pm
by themidge
Nice, about half of the stages look like they'll be good for GC and barely any sprint stages :thumbup:

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:04 pm
by Kjetil
micky wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:20 am
I couldn't follow Paris-Tour but just saw few bits; is it true that Tersptra had to wait longer for the wheel change due to disc wheel?
IIRC he got a new wheel from a Mavic service moto and forgot to take the axle out of the bad wheel (you know, the axle must be compatible with the frame with disc) and that, as well as getting the wheel in, took time.

Re: 2019 PRO thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:04 pm
by Weenie