2019 PRO thread

[CrankAddictsRich]

don't look like shoe covers to me... why do you thin they are?

[Karvalo]

Look at the boa dials.

[Rondje]

He won Paris - Roubaix for juniors, for as much that says anything I'd guess he does alright on cobbles. Question is, if he is a good British rider, won't he be forced in GT GC racing?

i'm not questioning his road career in the sense of his palmares, but i think most can agree the step up from juniors to WT is pretty tough, and 'stereotyping' his body type in the pro ranks, he's an outlier. I'm asking my self whens the last time i've seen a 5'3 115lb World Tour Competitive Cobbles Rider? ....

(edit: then again, whens the last time i've seen a 5"3 115lb CX champ?)

CX I don't know but LvdH was close a few times and I place Pidcock higher than LvdH because he got a bigger engine and better technique.
I agree that the step from junior to WT is high, but if you look at the winners of the junior P-R race, there are some big names between them.

In other news, MvdP just won his first stage in Antalya fresh of the CX bike.

[pastronef]

Gaerne imitation shoe covers over what shoe?

Specialized. he´s been doing that for a few years. here Giro 2016, Gaerne shoe covers http://www.steephill.tv/2016/giro-d-ita ... peri05.jpg

[LeDuke]

Another disc brake rotor accident?

Asked by Eurosport whether it could have been caused by a disc brake, Kristoff said that was his inclination, but that he couldn’t say for sure, only that it must have been caused by something sharp on one of the bikes.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kristof ... qus_thread

Another?

You mean like when Fran Ventoso and Owain Doull were NOT cut by disc brakes?


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[Mr.Gib]

Another disc brake rotor accident?

Asked by Eurosport whether it could have been caused by a disc brake, Kristoff said that was his inclination, but that he couldn’t say for sure, only that it must have been caused by something sharp on one of the bikes.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kristof ... qus_thread

Another?

You mean like when Fran Ventoso and Owain Doull were NOT cut by disc brakes?


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Or maybe he means when Katie Compton WAS cut by a rotor.

[Mr.Gib]

Tom Pidcock is teeny tiny.. however he's stated he wants to win Roubaix - https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/c ... -1-9085887

5'2" and 50kg? I didn't realize he was quite that small. That's like a baby elf. Maybe the climbing classics? And if he can TT then Grand Tours are a possibility. It would be great to see someone a bit outside of the typical physical range have a huge career. With a great engine being small can be a good thing. The only thing that really kills the little guys is high winds on the flat, particularely cross wind situations.

[BdaGhisallo]

Tom Pidcock is teeny tiny.. however he's stated he wants to win Roubaix - https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/c ... -1-9085887

5'2" and 50kg? I didn't realize he was quite that small. That's like a baby elf. Maybe the climbing classics? And if he can TT then Grand Tours are a possibility. It would be great to see someone a bit outside of the typical physical range have a huge career. With a great engine being small can be a good thing. The only thing that really kills the little guys is high winds on the flat, particularely cross wind situations.

In a GT I could see the other contenders handling Pidcock the way Hinault approached the challenge of the Colombians in the 80s. Put them to the sword on the flats and in the wind so that they arrive at the mountains with their strength already sapped, rendering their threat muted.

[Karvalo]

In a GT I could see the other contenders handling Pidcock the way Hinault approached the challenge of the Colombians in the 80s. Put them to the sword on the flats and in the wind so that they arrive at the mountains with their strength already sapped, rendering their threat muted.

These days everyone knows that's going to happen anyway, and organise their teams accordingly. Look at any big crosswind day in the Tour for the last four or five years and ask if they could have been raced any harder than they were?

[rainerhq]

Quintana has lost time several times during these first stages, so yes, its still happening.

[BdaGhisallo]

In a GT I could see the other contenders handling Pidcock the way Hinault approached the challenge of the Colombians in the 80s. Put them to the sword on the flats and in the wind so that they arrive at the mountains with their strength already sapped, rendering their threat muted.

These days everyone knows that's going to happen anyway, and organise their teams accordingly. Look at any big crosswind day in the Tour for the last four or five years and ask if they could have been raced any harder than they were?

And the little guys still suffer more than the bigger GT contenders, regardless of how many big rouleurs they have in their teams to protect them.

[Mr.Gib]

In a GT I could see the other contenders handling Pidcock the way Hinault approached the challenge of the Colombians in the 80s. Put them to the sword on the flats and in the wind so that they arrive at the mountains with their strength already sapped, rendering their threat muted.

These days everyone knows that's going to happen anyway, and organise their teams accordingly. Look at any big crosswind day in the Tour for the last four or five years and ask if they could have been raced any harder than they were?

And the little guys still suffer more than the bigger GT contenders, regardless of how many big rouleurs they have in their teams to protect them.

It's the most incredible thing. You even can experience it on your weekend club runs. For all the times I have cursed my jockey sized buddies when we climb, I have equally revelled in their absolute misery when the clydes put the hammer down on the flats. I love the story of Gert Steegmans riding by some flyweight climbers who were dying and about to get dropped in a cross wind, and smiling at them, casually chatting, and asking them how they were enjoying the Tour de France. 82kg and 1.9m. Now that's a proper man. One of my all time favorite pros. Killer leadout. I could see him winning Paris Roubaix. Alas, a domestique to the end.

[Kjetil]

The deep rinse before added mortar.

[bilwit]

Tom Pidcock is teeny tiny.. however he's stated he wants to win Roubaix - https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/c ... -1-9085887

5'2" and 50kg? I didn't realize he was quite that small. That's like a baby elf. Maybe the climbing classics? And if he can TT then Grand Tours are a possibility. It would be great to see someone a bit outside of the typical physical range have a huge career. With a great engine being small can be a good thing. The only thing that really kills the little guys is high winds on the flat, particularely cross wind situations.

He's a very intruiging rider. I don't think you can really lump him in with the Quintanas and Richie Portes. He has big specialized success on the crit circuit and cyclocross where he's powering away solo every time (rather than just winning bunch sprints).. can't be small and do that without a big engine.

[velomane]

I love the story of Gert Steegmans riding by some flyweight climbers who were dying and about to get dropped in a cross wind, and smiling at them, casually chatting, and asking them how they were enjoying the Tour de France. 82kg and 1.9m. Now that's a proper man. One of my all time favorite pros. Killer leadout. I could see him winning Paris Roubaix. Alas, a domestique to the end.

This is hilarious, in a sadistic sort of way.