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harvsurrey
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by harvsurrey

ultimobici wrote:
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Noctiluxx wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:58 am

The markup for my 2019 Trek Madone SLR frame is about 40%. I know this as the dealer forgot the invoice in the box Image

Yep, and that's a larger percentage margin than a Trek FX.
Doubtful.


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That's the margin from trek to the dealer for either a full bike or a frame .... give or take a few % (below 40 ..... not willing to divulge the actual number)

And it does not matter what model

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by TonyM

harvsurrey wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:01 pm
ultimobici wrote:
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Noctiluxx wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:58 am

The markup for my 2019 Trek Madone SLR frame is about 40%. I know this as the dealer forgot the invoice in the box Image

Yep, and that's a larger percentage margin than a Trek FX.
Doubtful.


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That's the margin from trek to the dealer for either a full bike or a frame .... give or take a few % (below 40 ..... not willing to divulge the actual number)

And it does not matter what model

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Here in the West coast of Canada (greater Vancouver) Trek has bought some stores and run these as Trek stores now (like Giant started also).

They have the full margin therefore (Trek to dealer and dealer to consumer).
As far as I heard they don't give much discount!

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harvsurrey
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by harvsurrey

If they do discount it Usually comes from Trek

Eg current discounts on rim brake madones due to slow movement of factory stock ( well that's the case in europe)

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by mattr

ultimobici wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:33 pm
RTW wrote:"Sales People"
??
Minimum wage shop staff with no sales training. "Sales People".

A good number of them shouldn't even be allowed contact with other humans.

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mattr wrote:
ultimobici wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:33 pm
RTW wrote:"Sales People"
??
Minimum wage shop staff with no sales training. "Sales People".

A good number of them shouldn't even be allowed contact with other humans.
Nothing like slagging off an entire section of the workforce.


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by mattr

No, it's nothing like slagging off an entire section of the workforce, it's pointing out the limitations and weaknesses of the industry as a whole.

Shit wages, virtually no training and a willingness in many shops to employ just about anyone who will do the job for the wages offered.

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by bm0p700f

Well finding people who actually know about bikes rather those that think they know is hard. Bike mechanics and good sales staff often overlap in skills and there skills are not valued by the customer. Customers expect knowledge and advise for free so shit advise becomes free and no one can afford to train. If you want to know why the bike industry is failing we have to look at ourselves and the want for everything to be at the lowest price. Something has to give.

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The customer can’t be faulted for wanting fair local pricing. As a customer I’m willing to pay an LBS $55 for a tire that is selling for $45 online from overseas. I’m not willing to pay $90 for that tire. That’s ridiculous. It’s not the LBS’s fault either...it starts earlier in the distribution model.

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TonyM
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by TonyM

What about the competencies of the LBS?

...It is not just about prices!


A few months ago I spoke with the store manager from an official Trek store in my area about business etc.....and after a while he told me that the best sales guys in his stores (he worked in 2 different stores) don’t even bike themselves and that his job is just to hire such guys and then make sure that they sell as much as possible etc...He had absolutely no interest in bike/ biking etc...just making $!

I was really upset and was thinking about informing Trek HQ! But maybe this is part of the business strategy of Trek.

Anyway, when the LBS don’t have much knowledge why would people come back to the LBS except for maintenance...

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by TobinHatesYou

I don’t do business the shops I deem incompetent. I just sympathize with the competent shops that can’t afford to pay living wages to mechanics because someone else is hoarding the money earlier in the pipeline.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:32 pm
TheRich wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:29 pm
robertbb wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:11 am
If it's so easy, I assume you're doing it. What's your website?
I'm one of the people saying it's not.

He was confused because nobody else said it was easy.
Nobody except him.

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