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LeDuke
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wheelbuilder wrote:
LeDuke wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:13 pm
ooo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4REHTAltztQ#t=16m10s
rear disc wheel change for viviani duabi tour stage 2

16:10 (22.8km to go) foot on the ground
17:04 (22.1km to go) finished, took off
That's a garbage mechanic. I've seen Nino Schurter's take a wheel off and throw one on in 16 seconds, from foot down in the pit to riding again.

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Garbage mechanic? That is pretty harsh man. Are you a Pro tour mechanic that is in a position to judge others' performance? Do you, or have you ever worked as a team mechanic or at a service course at any level? If so, opine away. If not, give the guy a break man.
Are you saying that I have to be a professional mechanic to judge his competency at this task? I can hop off my own bike and change a disc wheel in much less time.

For the mechanic's sake, I'll clarify. That was a garbage wheel change. His competency in other mechanical endeavours is unknown, but presumed adequate.

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bearsdidit wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:52 pm
IIRC, the biggest change between the "new" S5 compared to the old was in the cockpit area. The also stiffened up the front end but the silly looking Cervelo bars was the biggest change.
The bars were the biggest aero change, and of course the geometry (fit wise). But apart from the silhouette looking almost the same, when you check the details almost every part of the frame is quite different. Deeper fork, wider, more kammtail-ish downtube all the way along, very different BB, chainstays and dropout area, different cable routing, different layup.... seatstays and toptube are about the same though! Most of that was about making it better at being a conventional bike, but I could definitely believe there was a slight aero benefit from the fork and DT - especially with a bottle cage on.

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bearsdidit wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:52 pm
IIRC, the biggest change between the "new" S5 compared to the old was in the cockpit area. The also stiffened up the front end but the silly looking Cervelo bars was the biggest change.

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DiData never used those bars. the new S5 has a new seatpost, and not a straight fork anymore (it bends a bit)

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If Cav didn't give interesting comments we'd have to talk about Froome / Sky all the time.

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The original S5 and the current model is quite different! Fork is the most obvious even from pictures, but in real life there are significant differences in other places too.

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pastronef wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:22 pm
the new S5 has a new seatpost, and not a straight fork anymore (it bends a bit)
the seatpost was changed twice it seems. once in 2015 and then again to the weirder looking seatpost that was more comfortable

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watch with red band (can u pls post a photo again) might be a polar. i noted that CX guy sven nys had a killer watch and it was a polar https://twitter.com/sven_nys/status/324203116343988224

maybe this one?
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Have any mags done any aero test with the 3T Strada?



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LeDuke wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:44 pm
For the mechanic's sake, I'll clarify. That was a garbage wheel change. His competency in other mechanical endeavours is unknown, but presumed adequate.
And in the interests of balance - Groenewegen's take on the issues with his rm brake bike today... ""It was my goal to win the Dubai Tour but now it's really difficult. Maybe we'll see on the last day. It's the fault of my mechanics," he said, revealing he had problems with the bottom bracket of both his bikes. "My second bike was *f##k* too, that's why I changed it. It was the bottom bracket. It was completely *f##k*!""

Tense times in the hotel tonight! :shock: :lol:

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wingguy wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:01 am
LeDuke wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:44 pm
For the mechanic's sake, I'll clarify. That was a garbage wheel change. His competency in other mechanical endeavours is unknown, but presumed adequate.
And in the interests of balance - Groenewegen's take on the issues with his rm brake bike today... ""It was my goal to win the Dubai Tour but now it's really difficult. Maybe we'll see on the last day. It's the fault of my mechanics," he said, revealing he had problems with the bottom bracket of both his bikes. "My second bike was *f##k* too, that's why I changed it. It was the bottom bracket. It was completely *f##k*!""

Tense times in the hotel tonight! :shock: :lol:
Too busy locked in the bus getting high on mastik!

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DG should have ridden on past the CN reporter, no? Passion, adrenalin, testosterone, sprinter, mouth...
Two bikes with presumably the same bottom bracket failure points to either a faulty batch or erroneous installation, and I really cannot see what a bottom bracket can do to either rim or disc brakes.
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We've seen f*ck ups at LottoNL before, for example with Keldermans Tube sliding off his wheel in a downhill. Shame tho, he was doing very good, now he got a time penalty while the second group still got back in the end.

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LeDuke wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:13 pm
ooo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4REHTAltztQ#t=16m10s
rear disc wheel change for viviani duabi tour stage 2

16:10 (22.8km to go) foot on the ground
17:04 (22.1km to go) finished, took off
That's a garbage mechanic. I've seen Nino Schurter's take a wheel off and throw one on in 16 seconds, from foot down in the pit to riding again.
If you look at the pit lane in world cup MTB races, these wheel changes are really fast. Guess the mechanics need to train this process properly as well.

Also I think the current TA design is just bad to begin with. For instance Focus/Mavic have updated TA systems around the same axle sizes that allow you to change wheels a lot faster.

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Focus R.A.T. | Rapid Axle Technology

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