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Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:47 pm
by spud
re the positions, as I remember it sitting on the top tube is the fastest position, but pedaling while there is counterproductive. Of course, if TJ is able to pedal 400+ watts in the drops, that's faster than the aero tuck up to a certain speed (circa 45 mph?). On the steep stuff, aero tuck is faster. At least, that's how I remember it.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:47 pm
by Weenie

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:50 pm
by CrankAddictsRich
bilwit wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:25 pm
tbh commented before I watched it in full. I found it actually pretty funny that the large majority of the riders did the sit-on-top-tube thing on the descent, then see Tejay on the drops with his elbows out smashing the pedals on the descent and crushing all of their times :lol: . Makes me really wonder if that position is just a fad.. he didn't even do the Cancellara forearms on handlebar position either
I think its funny that you posted crticising his chances and the competition and hadn't even watched it.... to my eye, and reading that profile, it was a rolling course. I am sort of surprised that so many guys were trying to pedal a super tuck, but I'd guess its because they were actually just using their normal road bikes with standard gearing and that descent wasn't really steep enough to simply sit and coast, they were trying to be as aero as possible and still add in some pace via the pedals. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Tejay, that semi-specialized in TT might have recognized this about the course proile and requested bigger gears on his bike... he might have been running a 55-42 on his road bike for the stage, allowing him to sit normal and really pedal some power into the descent.
moonoi wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:37 pm


Back when Froome made it famous, there was some testing of the various positions done and the sit on tube came out as the least aero, and one of the most unstable...

Edit: Found a newer velonews article that also links to the original one as well

https://www.velonews.com/2018/07/from-t ... ion_473015
Did you actually read the artcle you posted? sitting on the top tube was the fastest tested position.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:25 am
by nathanong87
the only evidence i need is what Cam Wurf said :

"Back in california in January Junior matty mohoric had taught me his much famed sitting on the top tube while pedaling technique. When he did it I realized I had to do a million watts to keep up with him going down hill so knew it was effective."

ONE MILLIONNNNNNNN!

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:28 am
by Wookski
CrankAddictsRich wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:50 pm
Did you actually read the artcle you posted? sitting on the top tube was the fastest tested position.
No, it’s the 7th fastest according to the article. Did you actually read the article you claimed he hadn’t read?

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:15 am
by spdntrxi
nathanong87 wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:25 am
the only evidence i need is what Cam Wurf said :

"Back in california in January Junior matty mohoric had taught me his much famed sitting on the top tube while pedaling technique. When he did it I realized I had to do a million watts to keep up with him going down hill so knew it was effective."

ONE MILLIONNNNNNNN!
he's a triathlete :lol:

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:45 am
by Wookski
spdntrxi wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:15 am
he's a triathlete :lol:
The offical term is “bib pisser”

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:30 am
by Vermu
Wookski wrote:
CrankAddictsRich wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:50 pm
Did you actually read the artcle you posted? sitting on the top tube was the fastest tested position.
No, it’s the 7th fastest according to the article. Did you actually read the article you claimed he hadn’t read?
Think this is what ppl are looking for https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fantasti ... rt-blocken



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Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:40 am
by moonoi
Yes, that's what the velonews article is based on, that I allegedly didn't read...

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Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:50 pm
by spdntrxi
Wookski wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:45 am
spdntrxi wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:15 am
he's a triathlete :lol:
The offical term is “bib pisser”
indeed.. never buy gear from a long course Triathlete ... :beerchug:

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:27 am
by quadzilla
TJ Eisenhart's climbing form tho...

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:30 am
by Dr.Dos
Sitting on the top tube is fastest. Period.

The pedaling while sitting on top tube is shitty, tho. Better Sprint, sit down, sprint and so on. That's the fastest and also safe.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:15 am
by TurboKoo
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Chris Froome not really resting too much. Maybe giving a shot at worlds?

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:02 pm
by maquisard
Hopefully Froome will be there, realistically it is one of his few (maybe only!) remaining chances to be World Champion. Any word on Dumoulin’s attendance?

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:25 pm
by Rondje
maquisard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:02 pm
Hopefully Froome will be there, realistically it is one of his few (maybe only!) remaining chances to be World Champion. Any word on Dumoulin’s attendance?
From what I've read in the Dutch news he will attend all 3 disciplines (TTT, TT, RR) and is most likely to only ride the Deutschland Tour as preparation.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:25 pm
by Weenie

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:34 pm
by Rondje
European championship and who are in the breakaway in the last 40k of the race? Mathieu vd Poel and Wout v Aert.