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Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:24 am
by KWalker
Why does anyone care if riders are clean? It's unlikely many of the exciting ones are and the pretend charade that results in more scandals just makes things even worse.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:26 am
by Kjetil
I care about riders health and fair sport. But when I watch races it's for entertainment. The 60 and 50% years were bollocks though.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:26 am
by Weenie

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Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:58 am
by Wookski
Fair sport and riders health? We can all dream

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:23 pm
by mrgray
gilbert has alot to say about doping. i remember one quote where he was commenting on the relative strength of people in april versus july (classics versus GT), stating plainly that people he liquidises in spring destroy him in july, chalk and cheese he said. he was very matter of fact about it and not having a whinge at all.

also he is a very nice guy and clearly (along with sagan, kwiakowski (sic) and domylawn and matthews and all the other ones i like) a true hero of the sport who requires no chemical encouragement.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:17 pm
by tymon_tm
people care (occasionally) because it's still cheating, and while we don't rather think about it when watching a race, we do get pissed off learning it's been won dirty.

I've no delusions myself about "clean sport" just as I don't believe in "clean accounting" or "clean politics". however, we still do run and work with businesses, vote, and do all the stuff tainted with certain pathology.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:40 pm
by LeDuke
Speaking of chemical enhancement:

Geraint Thomas must be completely off the sauce, because Egal Bernal put 2:30+ into him today in the Romandie uphill TT.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:01 pm
by bilwit
Great ride by Richie Porte, was concerned he wouldn't be the same rider after his crash last year but he's still showing flashes (though maybe missed his chance last year)
LeDuke wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:40 pm
Speaking of chemical enhancement:

Geraint Thomas must be completely off the sauce, because Egal Bernal put 2:30+ into him today in the Romandie uphill TT.
yeah, Geraint Who?? Should be backing Bernal for the Tour at this point :lol:

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:20 pm
by nemeseri
Bernal can be a serious GC contender in the upcoming years. Let's see how sky will use him this year.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:32 pm
by TonyM
Yes many are saying that Bernal has an incredible engine and that he should really do well!!

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:46 am
by UpFromOne
Yes, nothing like the promise of an exciting young rider, yet to make his or her mark!

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:10 am
by Mr.Gib
What is with Port's aero suit? The neckline is like a ladies dress. :?

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:42 am
by spdntrxi
Mr.Gib wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:10 am
What is with Port's aero suit? The neckline is like a ladies dress. :?
Assos is like that...

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:29 am
by Wookski
spdntrxi wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:42 am
Mr.Gib wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:10 am
What is with Port's aero suit? The neckline is like a ladies dress. :?
Assos is like that...
Assos jerseys are known for having high necklines- not sure why they’d go so low for TT suit. It looks ridiculous.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:03 pm
by wingguy
Wookski wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:29 am
Assos jerseys are known for having high necklines
And Assos skinsuits have never looked like Assos jerseys. Why would they? :noidea:
not sure why they’d go so low for TT suit.
It seems quite inline with how all the track skinsuits are going, maybe slightly more exaggerated than others, but it's obviously makes it easier to get the aero fit that way. I would guess that having the front of the suit cut low and tight so it's constantly pulling down helps keep the fabric around the shoulder and underarms smoth.

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:52 pm
by themidge
^ yeah, high necks cause folding/bunching across the chest from shoulder to breast bone, especially in an aero tuck.
I agree that it looks stupid. It's like with compression socks, the ridiculous looks negate any performance benefit :D .

Re: 2018 PRO thread

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:52 pm
by Weenie

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