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i'm surprised he got another second chance. I dont think it's hating to say he floundered on his re-return to pro racing with didata. The hip trifecta of him, phinney and howes.
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It will be interesting if this 2nd 2nd chance works for him. This new gig sounds like it will be more in line with his personality.
He’s been sponsored by waffa for the past few years so it’s definitely “on brand” for EF. A great addition for the antiSky.
Lachlan clearly has a big engine. I bet if he was on the same program as Bernal or Yates, he would be just as good. Something tells me his on the bike passion is elsewhere. What if your passion isn’t settling in for 200km in a 200 person peloton and rolling the dice for 5 min of action?
But how do you really survive as a gravel pro? What is that in 2018? Look at my local race scene in Texas. Tons of road races, tons of crits. Austin has the biggest weekly crit series in the US, and one of the biggest in the world. But the only amateur race that sells out in 30 min is Castell Grind...a gravel race.
The demand is there for a Lachlan Morton to be the best in that discipline - or to at least have the passion to be the best. But monetization as a “pro” isn’t. So maybe he hasn’t failed as a Euro roadie, maybe he’s just surviving because his true passion isn’t a professional option - yet.
But how do you really survive as a gravel pro? What is that in 2018? Look at my local race scene in Texas. Tons of road races, tons of crits. Austin has the biggest weekly crit series in the US, and one of the biggest in the world. But the only amateur race that sells out in 30 min is Castell Grind...a gravel race.
The demand is there for a Lachlan Morton to be the best in that discipline - or to at least have the passion to be the best. But monetization as a “pro” isn’t. So maybe he hasn’t failed as a Euro roadie, maybe he’s just surviving because his true passion isn’t a professional option - yet.
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Him an Phinney on the same team? Jean shorts with chamois sewn in will be a reality. Ironic mustaches and John Lennon glasses too. Both of those guys think they are "too cool" for the road scene. Perhaps this EF diversification will work out well for them.
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Really? That entire team is second chances- Rolland, Phinney, Joe De, Uran, etc.nathanong87 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:51 pmi'm surprised he got another second chance. I dont think it's hating to say he floundered on his re-return to pro racing with didata. The hip trifecta of him, phinney and howes.
It sucks to see so many WT slots being used by guys who don't have the results or drive to really factor. Uran does, or did for a few isolated years, but I completely forgot Howes existed and so did the results sheet when I checked.
Agree, that whole team is a product of Vaughter's less than stellar self-confidence. If he was a big-balled bad ass, he could find a bunch of alpha male, cold hearted killers on the way up in their career (think Quick Step), manage their personalities and win with underpaid stars in the making. Seems like every team EXCEPT EF has had that star in the making. Instead Vaughters surrounds himself with stylish sheep who are happy just to be there. He needs guys that will talk back to him, dudes that aren't afraid to speak their mind. They are all nice guys with whom I'd enjoy a beer with, but they just have no killer instinct.
I think Axle Merckx does this well with his team, Rallye also. For some reason, the scrappy personality profile just hasn't made its way into EF.
I think Axle Merckx does this well with his team, Rallye also. For some reason, the scrappy personality profile just hasn't made its way into EF.
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the new minimum wage deal and maternity leave allowance introduced by the UCI for Women's World Tour teams?
According to CN:
"The maternity leave clause, which is included in the self-employed standard contract, will allow for women to take three months leave while being entitled to 100 per cent of their salary, followed by an additional five months at 50 per cent of their salary."
Self-employed riders are those who are paid a gross amount by the team and are then responsible for paying their own taxes.
If a rider is signed on a one year contract, the team owner could be on the hook for paying a rider that never actually rides for them. I understand that the women's peloton is seeking some parity with the men's game in terms of pay and guarantees but this one seems, to me at least, perhaps a step too far. Might this have the peverse effect of having teams seek out riders whom it feels won't be getting pregnant. Might it favor the really young women and leave the veteran riders, who may be inclined to thinking of having a child, left out in the cold some?
According to CN:
"The maternity leave clause, which is included in the self-employed standard contract, will allow for women to take three months leave while being entitled to 100 per cent of their salary, followed by an additional five months at 50 per cent of their salary."
Self-employed riders are those who are paid a gross amount by the team and are then responsible for paying their own taxes.
If a rider is signed on a one year contract, the team owner could be on the hook for paying a rider that never actually rides for them. I understand that the women's peloton is seeking some parity with the men's game in terms of pay and guarantees but this one seems, to me at least, perhaps a step too far. Might this have the peverse effect of having teams seek out riders whom it feels won't be getting pregnant. Might it favor the really young women and leave the veteran riders, who may be inclined to thinking of having a child, left out in the cold some?
Those women make so little that 50% of their salary for five months won't amount to much. And how often will this happen? It will be rare. I guess it could lead to discrimation against older female cyclists who are married - the team thinking that their biological clock is ticking. Doesn't a baby in a rider's late 20s or early 30s usually mean retirement anyway?
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on the contrary, it's a step to civilize employment relations between gals and teams. besides, maternity leaves (and recently - paternity leaves) are a standard that not only helps bring more children into this world (at least in europe old society becomes a huge and expensive problem) but also allows for healthier realtionships and boosts morale - this is often a neglected but pretty important factor that in a long run influences productivity and company performance (simply put - a happy employee works better, but is also healthier which means less sick leaves etc).
cyclists are employes just like clerks or whatever - why would they be treated any differently?
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I finally finished going through photos of my trip to Spain, and wanted to post my shots from Stage 21 of the Vuelta. I know it's late, but better late than never!
Here are some images:
IMG_3045-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_2967-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_2976-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_3110-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_3145 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/gp/136944742@N03/S3k7gB
Here are some images:
IMG_3045-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_2967-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_2976-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_3110-2 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
IMG_3145 by Gabriel Couriel, on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/gp/136944742@N03/S3k7gB
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Emonda SLR - https://bit.ly/2UK5FP8
Crockett - https://bit.ly/2Xem4sk
Well. It has been done by top level athletes with excellent comebacks in cross country skiing, biathlon and athletics.
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