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Wookski
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by Wookski

Daniel1975 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:26 am

Double the amount Salbutalmol: fact!
Sky did not reproduce this result to prove that it was possible: fact!
Other riders have been banned for less: fact!
WADA and UCI cleared him without any explanation 24 hours after ASO banned Froome from the tour: fact!

And than all the other things at Sky that are maybe not real facts, but highly suspicious like TUE's, jiffy bags, lost laptop with all medical files (NEVER stored only on one laptop in a professional organisation like Sky)

So yes, facts do bother me.....
You’re a jackass: fact!

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And this should end now. Useless arguing. You should focus on bikes and non-team equipment.
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coriordan
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by coriordan

Honestly the contents of this post are garbage.

Not double the amount. 1,400 when adjusted for dehydration.
22 consecutive tests created an excellent test profile to exonerate Froome. Reproduction of the result isn't required to be cleared.
Bans for other riders were 1) admission of overuse and 2) when it required a TUE. Around 30-40% of AAFs are cleared.
There are many explanations published if you care to read them. An AAF isn't a fail. It simply opens a dialogue with the athlete to discover if a full investigation should take place.

Jiffy bag - nothing ever came of this but I agree it's not ideal.
TUES - these are pretty usual.
Laptop storage - I have worked in multiple highly regulated firms and the use of the centralised synchronised filing system has always been crap. If you think a doctor in a start up is going to be perfect then you're dreaming.

I can't agree it's not ideal and it's likely he will receive some flak from the uninformed on the roadside, but before you state 'facts' at least get them straight.

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by bikewithnoname

Wookski, I couldn’ have put it better myself!

Main question for today’s stage (other than will any GC team try anything or will they just hold until Alp d’huez) is; can the sprinters make the time cut? Such a short steep stage is going to be a nigtmare for Kittel, Cav, Kristof etc
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bikewithnoname wrote:Main question for today’s stage (other than will any GC team try anything or will they just hold until Alp d’huez) is; can the sprinters make the time cut? Such a short steep stage is going to be a nigtmare for Kittel, Cav, Kristof etc
I'd say Sky will ride their pace and see how others like it.

It would be fun to see a strong front group get away from the peloton at the first climb. Or somebody like Nibali get some distance on other GC riders on the second climb, then stretch that in the descent and see how it pans out in the final climb.


coriordan
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by coriordan

One for a breakaway given the Alp tomorrow I reckon.

Yesterday was mildly interesting, noting GvA's ride to hold onto yellow.

Wonder who gets it today or tomorrow.

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by maquisard

Yesterday stayed together due to a headwind on the final climb, no one could realistically attack and stay away in the face of that.

Today will hopefully be different as it is pure mountains and short. I expect more attacking today to be honest than on the Alpe which is an old style long mountain stage.

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tymon_tm wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:45 am
most of the classics.
A post criticizing Sky for being too good at the classics.

Now I've seen everything :P

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by tymon_tm

^that's your interpretation
kkibbler wrote: WW remembers.

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by Daniel1975

Wookski wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:47 am


You’re a jackass: fact!
If that is your best answer in a discussion....
First rule in an adult discussion; treat your opponent with some respect.

Wookski
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by Wookski

Daniel1975 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:39 am
Wookski wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:47 am


You’re a jackass: fact!
If that is your best answer in a discussion....
First rule in an adult discussion; treat your opponent with some respect.
Hey, I was just stating another: fact!

But thank you for your kind words.

Wookski
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by Wookski

tymon_tm wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:12 am
^that's your interpretation
Not really- it’s a: fact!

Whilst Sky have dominated stage races they have not won a single classic this season.

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by themidge

What classics have they won? I can't even think of any, did Kwiatkovski win San Remo?

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by tymon_tm

sure, not this season they haven't, but nonetheless they have won classics before, they key riders do target them, and all in all their presence is noticeable at very least - my point was that's what differs them from Postal
kkibbler wrote: WW remembers.

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Wookski
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by Wookski

themidge wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:29 am
What classics have they won? I can't even think of any, did Kwiatkovski win San Remo?
In terms of monuments: Kwiatkowski won MSR last year and Poels won Liege the previous year. That’s it.

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