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IchDien
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by IchDien

IchDien wrote:"Sky say Froome's salbutamol concentration was 2000ng/ml.

Diego Ulissi got a nine-month ban for 1920ng/ml in 2014.

Petacchi got a year for
1320ng/ml in 2007.

BUT Leonardo Piepoli got no ban for levels reportedly similar to Petacchi's in 2007."


In b4 thread sh*tstorm.

maquisard
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by maquisard

With UKAD in charge I am sure he will get 3 months over the winter and keep the Vuelta title.

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gangbang
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by gangbang

It looks like this

1 Froome suffering in Los Machucos
2 Team decided to increase a dose of salbutamol twice
3 Froome tested positive
4 Froome dominates a time trial
5 Froome confidently goes in Angliru
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RimClencher
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by RimClencher

The only answer to let Froome off, but also give Ulissi and Petacchi both a Vuelta title retrospectively. Then it is all fair and good.

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by Kjetil

^This will go to CAS.
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RimClencher wrote:The only answer to let Froome off, but also give Ulissi and Petacchi both a Vuelta title retrospectively. Then it is all fair and good.


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maquisard
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by maquisard

You have to hope that this will only add to the smoking gun that is stacking up against Sky and that the Murdoch group will pull the sponsorship asap.

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by peted76

I don't hope that.
Froome has always stood for me a totem of clean racing, I'm withholding judgement until the UCI actually say something proper.
All we have is an investigation by La Monde and the Guardian newspapers so far and a statement from the uci saying that there was an irregular test of salbutamol.



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by mrgray

this says salbutamol don't do much http://thorax.bmj.com/content/56/9/675

am i missing something, like does it mask etc? do people take alot just for the mental fillip it provides them perhaps?
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maquisard
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by maquisard

peted76 wrote:Froome has always stood for me a totem of clean racing


Are you serious?! The guy who had an emergency TUE rushed through before Romandie 2014, a race that he went on to win.

Jeroen Swart's take on it...

https://twitter.com/JeroenSwart/status/ ... 3584027653

Rondje
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by Rondje

peted76 wrote:Froome has always stood for me a totem of clean racing


Every rider is a totem of clean riding until they get caught. And this is not the first controverse around Froome or Sky.


mrgray wrote:this says salbutamol don't do much http://thorax.bmj.com/content/56/9/675

am i missing something, like does it mask etc? do people take alot just for the mental fillip it provides them perhaps?


This says something else: https://twitter.com/RobicCoaching/statu ... 5485579264
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ave
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by ave

What I don't understand, is why THEY let ill people take drugs to be better than healthy athletes... ?

You're asthmatic, ok, cure yourself, just don't race.
You need corticosteroids just before your big race? Ok, cure yourself, just don't race.
etc.
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TuplaO
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by TuplaO

Regarding Froome's AAF. I think Cookson no longer being there to 'offer protection' may also be one factor to consider, when thinking about the whys, whos etc.

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marginal gains
"Smart may have the answers, but stupid have all the interesting questions."

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maquisard wrote:You have to hope that this will only add to the smoking gun that is stacking up against Sky and that the Murdoch group will pull the sponsorship asap.


Why would you want less money in cycling?

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