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Antoine
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by Antoine

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/qa-sylvan-adams-billionaire-behind-giro-ditalia-start-israel/
another billionnaire investing his money, the business model lives on
But unlike Tinkoff it's more than a pro team :
"Adams has also launched a cycling network in Tel Aviv — he hopes to turn Tel Aviv into the “Amsterdam of the Middle East” — and is also funding a $21 million high-performance sports institute and building the Middle East’s first Olympic velodrome, at the Olympic centre in Tel Aviv."
In 2018 it's 10 millions to RCS (euros hopefully) for having the Giro start and 2 millions for Froome to come along (?).
I guess in 2019 that will be 10 millions for recruting new riders, in 2020 they will begin to challenge Sky and in 2021 the tour de France will start in Israel (ASO may be more greedy than RCS though).

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Antoine wrote:2018 is a good year to try the double, there is one week more for recovery and training as the tour de france starts 6 days later and the giro ends one day later.
Still I'm surprised that they won't give a chance to Poels and/or Thomas to lead the giro.


i kinda feel bad for G. but i dunno what else he can do besides not crash out of big races.

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by kantcantcamp

Antoine wrote:https://cyclingtips.com/2017/11/qa-sylvan-adams-billionaire-behind-giro-ditalia-start-israel/
another billionnaire investing his money, the business model lives on
But unlike Tinkoff it's more than a pro team :
"Adams has also launched a cycling network in Tel Aviv — he hopes to turn Tel Aviv into the “Amsterdam of the Middle East” — and is also funding a $21 million high-performance sports institute and building the Middle East’s first Olympic velodrome, at the Olympic centre in Tel Aviv."
In 2018 it's 10 millions to RCS (euros hopefully) for having the Giro start and 2 millions for Froome to come along (?).
I guess in 2019 that will be 10 millions for recruting new riders, in 2020 they will begin to challenge Sky and in 2021 the tour de France will start in Israel (ASO may be more greedy than RCS though).


its gonna take a lot of money to turn tel aviv into amsterdam.
Been there in 2015 while living in amsterdam, and couldn't think of two further extremes in term of cycling infrastructure.

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nathanong87 wrote:
Antoine wrote:2018 is a good year to try the double, there is one week more for recovery and training as the tour de france starts 6 days later and the giro ends one day later.
Still I'm surprised that they won't give a chance to Poels and/or Thomas to lead the giro.


i kinda feel bad for G. but i dunno what else he can do besides not crash out of big races.

I'd feel bad for him too, but he chooses to stay there when he could go to other teams and lead.
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nathanong87 wrote:
Antoine wrote:2018 is a good year to try the double, there is one week more for recovery and training as the tour de france starts 6 days later and the giro ends one day later.
Still I'm surprised that they won't give a chance to Poels and/or Thomas to lead the giro.


i kinda feel bad for G. but i dunno what else he can do besides not crash out of big races.


maybe he'll target the Vuelta

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Or he could go back at doing Classics where he wasn't that bad.
Yes there's Moscon, but one more rider at the front isn't a bad thing!

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by liam7020

Thomas should never have tried to re-vamp himself as a GT rider. I can't remember whether it was the first or second time I saw him in Flanders but he so looked time a potential future winner.
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Little information about the new Vital Concept team so far. Which bikes will they use etc.? Or did I miss something.
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by pastronef

Willier wrote:Little information about the new Vital Concept team so far. Which bikes will they use etc.? Or did I miss something.


Orbea-Mavic-Shimano (so I guess Orbea helmets too)

Antoine
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by Antoine

they're doing a cheap team building in Brittany :
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they want to win races as soon as possible to get a TDF wilcard, but it's going to be difficult.
4 wildcards only, with Direct Energie, Cofidis, Fortuneo and Wanty beeing strong candidates.

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by TonyM

Which team is it on the picture? They don’t wear their team jersey

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Willier
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by Willier

About team jerseys, I was wondering...Why are contracts (well most of them) run til 31. December? Riders race for the team till late October and then they go on vacation. Then we see them in December on pre-season traning camp with their new team, with new bike, but in old team`s kit. This is hiddious.
Wouldn`t be easier and nicer to run a contract till 31.10?
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by Jenmoss

Deleted - this has nothing to do with cycling.

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by tymon_tm

yeah, as a kid I was taught during Olympics all the wars and conflicts are supposed to be stopped in order to cherish the olympic spirit. today no one seems to give a damn about cliches like values or sportsmanship, it's pure showbiz with propaganda-esque qualities where the sport itself is being used to cover dirt (take Beijing and Sochi for instance).
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by petepeterson

I'll leave my opinions on Israeli Giro start out but the telegraph cycling podcast had some good background on it recently.

Thomas has never finished top 10 in a Grand Tour. I don't feel sorry for him.

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