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stevec1975
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by stevec1975

bilwit wrote:
bilwit wrote:He should just do the Giro-Tour-Vuelta triple already. He's already proven that he's, at the very least, as strong as the best dopers of all time (none of the best dopers were able to do the Tour-Vuelta double, only 15s off the pace on Armstrong's time up Ax 3 Domaines, etc).


aaaaand he just said it's possible to achieve :wink:


What he actually said was "I would not say it’s impossible. Nothing is impossible, but it will be extremely difficult."

Hardly the same thing is it? Obviously it doesn't fit your anti-sky/doping agenda, but hey, when has the truth ever mattered?

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by Rudi

I think the equivalent of the tennis "calendar grand slam", where you hold all the major titles in the same calendar year would indeed be very hard in the modern era. I guess if all three grand tours put some big TT and/or TTT mileage in the same year then you could see Froome currently having enough to get a lead and hold it. But that would be an unlikely scenario.

I could however see someone holding all three titles at the same time, most likely Tour/Vuelta in one year and the Giro in the following. If I were serious about historical legacy in cycling and I was in Froome's postion right now - I'd be thinking do the Giro next year even if it means missing the tour. Only my opinion though.
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by ave

>equivalent of the tennis "calendar grand slam

Almost everybody enters every grand slam every year, so there is no comparison, as in cycling it's only Hansen. :D (maybe other lesser riders too? - I don't know)

bilwit
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by bilwit

stevec1975 wrote:
bilwit wrote:
bilwit wrote:He should just do the Giro-Tour-Vuelta triple already. He's already proven that he's, at the very least, as strong as the best dopers of all time (none of the best dopers were able to do the Tour-Vuelta double, only 15s off the pace on Armstrong's time up Ax 3 Domaines, etc).


aaaaand he just said it's possible to achieve :wink:


What he actually said was "I would not say it’s impossible. Nothing is impossible, but it will be extremely difficult."

Hardly the same thing is it? Obviously it doesn't fit your anti-sky/doping agenda, but hey, when has the truth ever mattered?


uhhh "not impossible" is synonymous to "possible", please go read a dictionary

stevec1975
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by stevec1975

It's a bit disingenuous though, it is not impossible for me to be the next person on the moon right, but it's never going to happen. The way it comes across, CF's comments are stating the same level of impossibility, but it doesn't fit people's narratives obviously.

bilwit
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by bilwit

To not be impossible literally means that it is possible. There is nothing disingenuous about the use of the English language.

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by wpccrunner

for all grammar related kerfuffles please proceed to the following...

https://www.englishforums.com/English/G ... orum12.htm

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by kgt

tymon_tm wrote:whether they try to do it, I would like to know in advance so I could plan not to watch it. the concept of SKY train owning the roads for the whole 9 weeks seems like a torture to me.

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wpccrunner wrote:for all grammar related kerfuffles please proceed to the following...

https://www.englishforums.com/English/G ... orum12.htm

Im sorry, you used kerfuffle erroneously, you should have used Brouhaha.
What? its about as relevant to Pro Cycling as anything in the last 10 pages..

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by AJS914

Rudi wrote:If I were serious about historical legacy in cycling and I was in Froome's postion right now - I'd be thinking do the Giro next year even if it means missing the tour. Only my opinion though.


If I were Froome, I'd think about getting to the 5 wins club before trying the Giro before the Tour.

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by ave

Not a good advertisement for Factor bikes...

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Some mechaic might be copping a flogging...
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FilmAt11
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by FilmAt11

Looks like the rider didn't shift his weight back over the speed hump...but that's still an unacceptable outcome!

AJS914
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by AJS914

Mechanic's fault or the bars just broke as all his weight came down on them?

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by ave

Also he got a flat on the front tire when the tire hit the ground after the rider was already launched forward. Clear to see on the slowmo.
That's a pinch flat, most likely on a tubular.

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