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"Braving the Deep, Deadly South on a Bicycle"
Cyclists are 10 times likelier to be killed in South Carolina than in Oregon. What makes southern roads so treacherous?
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... le/284293/
I live in South Carolina and I can say that for the most part, the roads around where I ride are okay. You have to be on the lookout obviously, but not any more than you would while riding anywhere else. One thing that does make a huge difference is road conditions. I know that the roads around where I live are trash and cause a lot more problems. Potholes, patches, rumble strips where there is barely a shoulder anyway. It all adds up to be in direct line with traffic.
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Additionally, we have limited laws surrounding text messaging in vehicles, compound that with the overwhelming number of ham-fisted gibbons who couldn't drive with both hands on the wheel and their head in a vise looking straight at the road and you have a recipe for disaster.
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Living in Dorchester County 20 odd miles inland from Charleston, this place has to be the worst place to ride bikes that I have ever stayed.
As has been already touched on (limited restriction on cell phone call and texting), try no restriction, even the police do it.
Proportion of truck to regular cars is more than 85% in favour of the truck. Let's add to the fact that the SC driver's manual if it is actually ever read has more contradictions and flat out omissions than can be believed. No-one monitors the people completing the tests and many people are flat out using cell phones or calling people for the answers ( I saw this as I sat my test when applying for a SC license).
The complete lack of any sort of road worthy condition being imposed upon cars means that a huge proportion are so sub standard and dangerous that I am continually amazed that such vehicles are even still driveable. This rule used to be enforced but it was too difficult to enforce so the police and department of motor vehicles just stopped enforcing it!
Even the DMV rules on buying a car only tell you to make sure that it steers in a straight line and that the brakes work!
Their handbook's section on cyclists is manifestly inadequate and gives no guidance to a new motorist.
There are no connecting roads with bike paths allowing a continual path the anywhere. Bike paths stop and start at random ending in the middle of nowhere.
No shoulder on any roads anywhere, you ride on the edge between the white line and the edge of the asphalt through any gravel or potholes in the way. At any time you go for a ride, you take your life in your own hands. I use a flashing light at all times of day, I will not ride at night or in the rain as I simply do not trust the motorists.
Coming from Australia, I used to think conditions were not so good there but honestly, I'd trade those here for them in a heart beat. My son wants to ride with me but we are restricted to bike paths and our housing estate. I will NOT risk him here.
I wish I were ranting, I wish I were over reacting but the truth is, I don't think so . . .
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Mapei down under wrote:Coming from Australia, I used to think conditions were not so good there but honestly, I'd trade those here for them in a heart beat. My son wants to ride with me but we are restricted to bike paths and our housing estate. I will NOT risk him here.
I had the chance to visit & ride in Australia recently. Before getting there, I was warned by my friend how bad the roads were, how the drivers were terrible, and sent articles about some guy who created a one-man terror for bikes. But, I after riding in Va & other parts of the south, I thought that Aus. was almost Nirvana. Smoothest roads, all with shoulders or actual bike lanes.
Compared to there, riding here is a total crap shoot.
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Florida tends to be a mixed bag. Some areas, like Ft. Lauderdale, neither accept nor reject them (they do have some nice lanes, but nothing to really promote them), while Miami is pretty hostile toward cyclists. Having lived in Miami for the better part of my cycling life, it was always a risk to go out and ride. The average driver thought of themselves as the owner of the road, and everyone else (including other drivers) were just in their way. Central Florida (Clermont, Mount Dora, etc) is pretty welcoming to cycling, and has events throughout the year to draw in the cycling community. I only rode once in Orlando, so I can't comment on it, too much.
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