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Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:42 am
by bugmenot
Thanks for the write up, much appreciated.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:56 pm
by prendrefeu
@ToffieBoi

Sorry for the late reply to this, I've been very busy lately and haven't been able to check into WW.

So what's happening with your battery is basically a battery failure due to age, not necessarily the firmware or the device. When Li-Ion batteries die or get old towards failure, they will often give incorrect power outputs that are read by the device as 100% (even though this isn't the case). When I was researching this battery replacement thing, reading up on Li-Ion batteries and so forth, I did read about this occurrence. A similar thing happened with my laptop when the battery was past age.

As for re-calibrating battery settings on the Garmin? Nope, not necessary, it's been working fabulously.
I really wish a total expert in electricity/power/batteries would chime in here, but from what I understand despite the new battery having slightly less capacity compared to original, it is also operating at a slightly lower power, therefore it will be able to power the Garmin with the same battery life as the original. The Garmin hasn't shown any weaknesses or decrease in functionality operating at the slightly lower power... it's almost as if Garmin could have initially powered the unit with a lower power battery from the start. :noidea:

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:56 pm
by Weenie

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:03 pm
by zazo
Your new battery has less stored energy than original Garmin battery 600mAh vs 700mAh so you should expect shorter battery life if those numbers are accurate.

Your Garmin should be operating at the same power as before since power in DC circuit is calculated from voltage (which is the same 3,7V on both batteries) and current (current is as high as garmins circuit "demands" it and in this case battery isn't a limiting factor).

Lets say that Garmin has a constant current drain of 50mA. With 700mAh battery that would result in 14h of runtime and with 600mAh battery it would be 12 hours.
Power that garmin operates at would in both cases be 50mA*3,7V=0,185W.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:24 pm
by prendrefeu
Perfect! Thanks for the clarification zazo!!

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:53 am
by prendrefeu
A quick and short update on how the battery is working out since my change... in a phrase? Better than expected!

The battery has been holding charge really well. For example a few weekends ago I did a double along with a friend, but we really took our time (and called it a 'spa day'). Total time was 13hrs and 20 minutes (estimated), rolling time something like 10:30hrs. The week immediately following I was unable to go out for a ride, so I did not use nor charge the Garmin until the following Saturday when I went out on a short/easy 100mi w/ 9500' climbing. When I started up the Garmin again that Saturday morning it showed 43% charge left! And it lasted throughout the full 100mi ride.

So... not too bad, not too bad at all.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:10 pm
by nathanong87
question if im just switching guts from 1 case to another, do i need to solder anything ?

recently got a new front and rear for my edge 500
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Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:30 pm
by kode54
excellent DIY write up. i would suspect that the battery swap would be the same for the Edge 800 as well.

did you get a chance to weigh the batteries? must be a difference if you're going from 700 to 600. it is WW after all.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:19 pm
by prendrefeu
@nathan

Only if you want to move the speaker. Everything else is pop-in and does not need soldering.


@kode54

I'm very embarrassed to say I did not weigh the batteries! I do have the old battery with me as I collect old hazardous waste to drop off at a local collection center. I will weigh the old battery this evening and see if I can track down the weight of the new one.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:34 pm
by nathanong87
prendrefeu wrote:@nathan

Only if you want to move the speaker. Everything else is pop-in and does not need soldering.


@kode54

I'm very embarrassed to say I did not weigh the batteries! I do have the old battery with me as I collect old hazardous waste to drop off at a local collection center. I will weigh the old battery this evening and see if I can track down the weight of the new one.


so i'd just need to reglue (hold down) the speaker? if so, SWEET! project tonight!

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:46 pm
by prendrefeu
New weight of the Garmin 500 = 55.6g (according to my scale)
Old weight, per online search, 56.7g verified.

So I saved 1.1g with the battery change. :lol:

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:45 pm
by djconnel
Excellent! At $25/gram that's hardly the most expensive weight savings reported on this forum.

Thanks for the write-up! I never realized this was an option.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:58 pm
by nathanong87
yea it was easy!!!! thanks for the original guide!

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:49 pm
by Rick
zazo wrote:Your new battery has less stored energy than original Garmin battery 600mAh vs 700mAh so you should expect shorter battery life if those numbers are accurate.

I remember seeing, or at least I think I remember seeing, a replacement battery that was a higher mA-hr rating than the original somewhere, but I couldn't find it again when looking. If anyone finds one, please post a link here.

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:20 am
by vtspot
Appreciated for the information. :)

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:54 am
by wombatk
I found this very useful when replacing my Edge 500 back cover, to fix an Enter button that had cracked up.

The only extra trick I had to work out was how to remove the speaker. I tried just picking out the glue around
the edges of the speaker, but it still wouldn't budge. So then I used a 3 ml hypodermic syringe to squirt about
0.5 ml of acetone around the edge of the speaker. After 30 seconds, I could then slowly prise it up with
a bent-nose tweezer.

To reinstall the speaker, I used some silicone sealant, dabbed just around the edges of the speaker to mimic the
pattern used previously.

Cheers

Re: Garmin Edge 500 Battery Replacement - How to / DIY / Gui

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:54 am
by Weenie