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I know in skiing in some tests they cover the skis with a "blank" coat. But most importantly the participants must make an effort not to try to guess the brand they're trying (it's easy for an aficionado to guess the brand and model only by the distinct shape of the equipment).
Since most of these tests are funded, or the bikes provided come from major manufacturers that expect a positive outcome for their product, it's unlikely that such a thing would happen. Just dreaming here...
Maybe we can draw our own conclusions already, even if the test never happened.
That would be a change...
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Maybe madcow could run the test, as he's already thought about the matter.
In The stupidest thing you've heard at a bike shop..., madcow wrote:This one happened in our own shop, a campus shop at the UofA.
One of our regulars is in the store. He's blind and is the stoker on a tandem. He has his dog next to him as he's trying on helmets. When he leaves one of the "higher education" students asks the guy behind the counter how a blind guy can ride a bike. The guy behind the counter says that "he rides on the back of a tandem"..... The girl accepts that, but then starts to look really confused. After a minute she leans over the counter and quietly asks the salesman in all sincerity, "how does the dog steer the bike?"
Tour's conclusion was that the results corresponded to the results measured in tour's frame test for vertical compliance in kg/mm for the fork, frame and seat post, meaning that these measurements give a good directional indication of frame comfort.
The other thing which comes out is that the tyres, seatpost, fork, handlebars and wheels (in that order) make a much bigger contribution than the frame, which is essentially rigid in comparison. So if you want a cheap, comfortable, light bike go buy an Aluminium Canyon with 25mm tyres, their two piece seatpost and carbon bars and your favourite saddle.
as for bikes - i wouldn't dare to compare different frame's ride quality without spending like a week on each one of them. and still, as mrfish pointed out, the setup choice would extremely bias any verdict. besides frames these days are often very much alike (=high quality), and the devil is in the details that particular setup can emphasis or suppress
kkibbler wrote: WW remembers.
Different carbon frames with same exact components for each frame would be difficult to tell.
IT will eventually come down to proper fit.
You would have to give the bikes to people that are not too well informed of knowing what the frame looks like because even if the frame is painted: shapes and unique designs of frame are evident to people that know cycling parts. Therefore it would be biased already.
Meaning, you're more likely to tell the difference between what you know like the back of your hand and something you don't know. But you don't actually know a bike after 1-2 hours... It's like claiming you know.everything about a woman after the first date, yet if she had a twin you couldn't tell the difference on the second date
And funny at the same time....
Lots of people are ready to jump and buy a $6-7K bike on numbers, reputation or image alone...worse, on what's written on bike forums ...
I think it still would be an interesting study. Of course, it would be conducted for a few weeks.
The participants would try all of the bikes for a few days each. Like the ski tests, they would use each bike for a number of km's on each terrain, performing defined tasks. After the test, they would have to rate each bike on criterias we all know and look for in a bike.
of course the little "nuances" aren't targeted on such a study. But it would be pretty handy if such s test existed for buyers looking for a specific type of "behavior" from a bike, on different terrains and tasks.
stella-azzurra wrote:Nah that would alter the ride experience.
Tour magazine did it without issue. Same type of material, same thickness, same length and placed along same portions of each frame.
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