@petepeterson
Wow. Okay, you need to try harder. When reading what you wrote the overwhelming response was that of disappointment.
But, here we go:
petepeterson wrote:And Prend...
1.) If you are actually concerned about the waste created by a few co2 canisters per year then perhaps you should give up cycling. Does it keep you up for nights when you throw out a punctured tube or a gel wrapper? How much embodied energy was required to build/transport your carbon frame from china or to grow, harvest, process, and transport the additional food you are required to consume to fuel your cycling? It's splitting hairs for the sack of argument no?
No, it isn't splitting hairs. Are you daft?
Punctured tubes? I patch them and re-use them at least once. After two patches it's given to the local bike cooperative for someone else to use - which is usually someone who can't afford a regular, new bike and more often than not depends on the bicycle as their only means of transportation in the Los Angeles area. Seriously, pete, how about being considerate towards others? Tubes can be re-used as belts, rack-straps, woven to make chairs (as a friend of mine did recently, full dining set!), and so much more. How about being a little thoughtful and this might be a stretch for you - creative - with the materials in your hands?
Gel wrapper? First, not really using gels anymore. But when I did, I mostly used the flask system. On occasion I have used sample gel packets of miscellaneous flavors from the trade shows, but even those I stash into my pocket... and I know this might sound shocking, but I throw them into my recycling bin and they get recycled.
My sleep patterns have never been affected by these concerns, but thank you for expressing some interest.
Carbon components? Recycling techniques are being developed... and oh hey, I can actually repair most components instead of binning them! Who knew?!
Aluminum? I've broken a few frames in my time. Guess what I did with them? I recycled them.
Steel frames? Ditto. Recycled or donated to the local cooperative.
Heck, everything I've re-used, re-cycled, or donated so that the lifespan of that product does not end with me.
Your argument about embodied energy is short sighted because you're overlooking the basic concept of
product use lifespan (aka service life).
So, pete, are you just lazy? Do you see a mountain and think:
oh, that might take too much work, I'll just not even bother pedaling towards it. ? Sounds like it. Your other points are valid - but your argument is that one should not make an effort
at all because of the task at hand towards improving how we operate.
Riding with you must be miserable and defeatist.
petepeterson wrote:2.) I have never had a problem getting home comfortably after a flat in close to 20yrs of using co2.
You must not ride very far, or you assume that your scenario applies to everyone in the entire world.
petepeterson wrote:3.) Do you see the irony of you refefring to using one pump for life a thread about buying new pump technology that just came on the market.
No, because my response was to the post prior to mine. Why don't you go back and read a little?
petepeterson wrote:4.) I carry a single co2 or vittoria pitstop on each ride. I have been riding and racing bikes for many years and only carry a pump when I am on remote solo MTB rides. I don't do it but two co2 cartridges would be preferred to a pump sticking out of my pocket or hanging off my frame.
You're repeating yourself. See response to #2, above, and please read my post, to which you replied, more carefully next time. As eric pointed out, have you even considered the weight of your total setup? This is WEIGHT WEENIES, kiddo.
petepeterson wrote:The title of the thread is "powerful mini pump". That is an Oxymoron in my opinion.
Yet you're showing yourself to be a moron?
I expect better from you. I really do. Your post in an attempt to one-up my response to a prior post was very disappointing, to be honest. Come on man, you're better than this.
