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Mocs123
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by Mocs123 on Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:37 pm
I admit I had to Google as I didn't know who Jan-Willem van Schip was but very interesting screenshots. Despite the focus here being on the narrow bars and extreme position (which I agree makes my core and triceps burn just looking at it), the bike itself is quite intersting. Look at the huge stack of spacers on the front, what looks to be an stem with a positive rise, miles of exposed cable (albit on a very large size bike), and a very odd looking seat tube. I've never seen anything like it.
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ms6073
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by ms6073 on Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:26 pm
spartacus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:04 pm
but how can he breathe with his bars narrower than his shoulers??!!??
Yes, those bars are very narrow at the hoods, but with the levers canted inwards, I see that his forearms cant outwards such that the spacing between his elbows appears to be nearly the same width as his shoulders.
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ave
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by ave on Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:41 pm
Very strange bike and setup!
But breathing is secondary to being aero.

Actually you can be faster with less Watts. I am.
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tymon_tm
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by tymon_tm on Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:44 pm
love that crazy attitude, i wish more pros would tweak with their setups like that. of course cables or beard

cost him few watts but in this case i bet it's the position that makes him faster. sometimes it's more important how you feel about being set up on a bike than what the numbers from the armchair wind tunnel testing suggest

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LouisN
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by LouisN on Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:49 pm
To sum it up: low budget team (bike models and sizes) + "out of standard proportions" athlete = that's what they came up with as resourceful solutions.
Louis

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ms6073
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by ms6073 on Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:31 pm
ave wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:41 pm
Very strange bike and setup!
But breathing is secondary to being aero.

Actually you can be faster with less Watts. I am.
Approximating here, but from the images it seems that the hip flexors of the rider in question are on the same level as the eyes of the rider directly behind him - so at least 30 cm (12 inches) higher.
- Michael
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Karvalo
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by Karvalo on Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:08 pm
ms6073 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:31 pm
ave wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:41 pm
Very strange bike and setup!
But breathing is secondary to being aero.

Actually you can be faster with less Watts. I am.
Approximating here, but from the images it seems that the hip flexors of the rider in question are on the same level as the eyes of the rider directly behind him - so at least 30 cm (12 inches) higher.
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by petal666 on Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:31 am
UpFromOne wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:02 am
Looks like another typical chilly start for Flanders, just above freezing. I don't know how they can race all-out in such cool temps.
They don't go all out until later.