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Maybe, but if WVA had been pulling for Rog on the windy stage 7 instead of looking at a victory, Pog would have been minutes away.

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by flying

About last year I think the only real mistake Jumbo made was underestimating Pogacar

When they gaped him on the split windy day they should never have let him regain that time
He should have always been watched as a possible favorite.

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by bilwit

People always want to hindsight cherry pick every little thing about Jumbo's tactics or Roglic's preparation but the reality is that Pogacar put up an outrageous, out of this world, All Time performance in that final TT and there's nothing anyone could have done about that, even he was as shocked as everyone else.

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by micky

⬆ what he said.

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by LouisN

It will be an interesting first week:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mark-c ... 75x1ZNqAVU

Louis :)

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by Dan Gerous

Cav is in for the Tour, I guess he suddenly got strong enough and got a big fat check over the weekend!

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Bennett hasn't recovered from his knee injury. No point taking an injured rider, especially one who's leaving this season.

Bigger shock is no Cavagna who's clearly flying right now.

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by spud

I was a little sceptical about Bennett's ride in the tour - I'm a fan, and I think he's a great rider. But having an injury this close to the tour, with no real opportunity to test it in race conditions prior to the tour, makes it unrealistic.

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by flying

bilwit wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:06 am
People always want to hindsight cherry pick every little thing about Jumbo's tactics or Roglic's preparation but the reality is that Pogacar put up an outrageous, out of this world, All Time performance in that final TT and there's nothing anyone could have done about that, even he was as shocked as everyone else.

There was a story about Allan Peiper in this months Peloton

The part that really was interesting was his talking about that final TT
I guess he foresaw that possibility & they targeted that

Will attach the page for you folks to read if you like

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by Mockenrue

Thanks for posting that.

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by ave

It's great stuff, but doesn't tell us HOW he did that. This year Pogacar came 3rd in the TT nationals. Not minutes faster than everybody else, but slower than two of his compatriots.

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it was special tt stage, and Pogacar used this special 12-speed 14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-27-29 cassette to win it
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by ave

That must be it! :)

Also, WTF with Ganna losing by 0:53? Seems impossible to get that much slower that fast. (halfway between the Giro and the Olympics)

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ave wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:07 pm
It's great stuff, but doesn't tell us HOW he did that. This year Pogacar came 3rd in the TT nationals. Not minutes faster than everybody else, but slower than two of his compatriots.

Also, WTF with Ganna losing by 0:53? Seems impossible to get that much slower that fast. (halfway between the Giro and the Olympics)
Well, he finished 5th at nationals on the road which is even worse so I would not use this year's nationals to judge what he could do at the Tour last year or in general but it does seem weird to be suddenly not too good and makes it hard to predict what he will do this Tour. Was he back from altitude this past week? Probably not as he just raced and won Tour of Slovenia. Was he tired from a last hard training block? Taking it easy to be fresher at the Tour? Illness? Did he extract blood for the Tour just before? (UAE team management are far from angels, Matxin has a very shady past) Hard to know. But LOL to a magic cassette explaining his performance! :mrgreen:

For Ganna, his sub-par nationals was just a bad day with an explanation, he said he suffered from the heat and semi-bonked, probably not drinking enough, it was much colder at the Giro and that happens to many riders, MVDP has had a few surprisingly bad days when the weather suddenly gets very warm. Ganna will be fine for the Olympics. Hopefully it serves as a learning experience, it can be very warm in Tokyo in the summer so he better get there a bit early to acclimatize and/or adjust is drinking habit.

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