by tymon_tm on Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:29 pm
this thread needs to stay out of any doubts regarding SKY, Froome etc, - just because. I hear you, but - given you joined in '06, I suppose you do remember what was being said/written on this very forum regarding Lance, how "haters" threw doubts, questions and accusations, and believers went on with the "he never tested positive" routine. I remember quite well, as I couldn't believe it either, that it's possible Lance wasn't who I thought he was, and that his marvelous riding (that got me riding myself) is at least not so real. more than a decade later, history repeats itsels, most of us grew up, got just a tad bit experienced (maybe even wiser) but you mate, and many more here, seem to position yourself on the (blind) "believer" side of things. yeah, there are no hard evidence about anything, no one got caught with a needle in his arm so to speak, but there are dots, many of them, and it's our privilege to connect them - after all, it's a chat, not scientific, or legal-proof discussion. I try to be as "neutral" as I can, without saying "oh I hate this or that, he's so bad, blah blah" - just stating some observations and raising issues - and no, it doesn't make me lose sleep or interest in pro cycling (ok, a bit it does, but my passion for sport is greater than any offence one might've commited). your argument is it's entirely possible, from sports science pov, that it's all fair and square. mine is - given what we know (those forementioned dots) - it isn't.
one more thing - I also remember when Museuuw was first accused of doping - WW mods went as far as banning for mentioning it. sure, we can all try to maintain appearances it's all good, sports doing great, hey what's this socks' brand. but I believe we're all mature enough not to kid ourselves, and when there's an issue, we can chat about it in a civilized manner. or can't we?
kkibbler wrote: WW remembers.
