Bell Recommendations?

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feynman
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by feynman

Ypuh wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:38 am
CloseTheGap / HideMyBell
That's pretty clever.

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EdWiser
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by EdWiser

I use the bar end bell. You just twist to ring and it doesn’t take off handlebar space.

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feynman
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by feynman

Thanks again for all of the replies.

Canyon has a similar bar end bell that looks fairly stealthy, here.

I was in my local REI and was happy to see they had Spurcycle variants, the Knog Oi Luxe (the Luxe was quite a bit nicer than the standard in my opinion), and a few other decent choices. I sat them all up on a makeshift platform, tested the sound, action, etc. I had some REI points and a $20 gift card, so you guys made me spend more than I ever thought I would...on a bell.

Now I'm a happy new Spurcycle Original Black owner. It's nuts, but I do like it. My bike deserves it I guess.

WW may be a bad influence on me.

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by OtterSpace

feynman wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:35 am
Now I'm a happy new Spurcycle Original Black owner. It's nuts, but I do like it. My bike deserves it I guess.

WW may be a bad influence on me.
Nice I'm sure you will love it.

FYI there are aftermarket bar end mount kits for the spurcycle. I have one and love it.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/98GNQ ... cycle-bell

Smitty2k1
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by Smitty2k1

I like these Crane e-ne bells as a cheaper alternative to a spurcycle bell.
https://www.cranebellco.com/e-ne-bell

froze
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by froze

This forum is about weight weenies, screaming is a lot lighter weight than having a bell.

All a bell is good for is pedestrians on a bike path, they're useless on the street, but your voice is at the very least, with a soft voice, will be as effective as a bell, but most people's voices are significantly louder than a bell.

Of course, if your vocal cords are damaged and all you can muster is something akin to the volume of a whisper, then you better get a bell.

Some states require a bell by law, I've lived in two states that required a bell, neither state would pull a cyclist over for failure to have a bell, and about 98% of the riders did not have a bell in those states. The only states that "require" a bell is New York, Georgia, Indiana, New Jersey, and South Carolina. But I bet if you ask bike shops in those states if they ever knew of someone who got a ticket for not having a bell the answer would be no.

Maybe in some other countries, they're much more militant about bells on bicycles, but in America, they're not.

In some states in America, law enforcement puts a priority on lights and reflectors at night. At night in some states, like Indiana where I live currently, if you have an accident and it's not your fault but you were running without lights or reflectors, they charge the accident automatically to the rider for being at fault, and the motorist will get no blame for it. But this isn't the case with bells, no bell, no big deal, the cops have more important things to do than to be concerned with than harassing someone without a bell.

froze
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by froze

Weight weenies are not supposed to have frivolous weighted items like a bell, especially since most people's voices are significantly louder than any bell could dream of becoming.

A bell is only good on bike paths, on the street a motorist in a car is not going to remotely hear a bell, the only thing a car could hear would be one of those compressed air horns!

Also, by not having a bell you can use two hands on the brakes instead of just one hand on one brake, thus you will be safer.

Most states that have the outdated law requiring bells, do not enforce that law, which is why brand-new bikes in bike shops do not have a bell mounted prior to purchase unlike reflectors, but most states don't even enforce the use of reflectors or lights. But check with your local bike shops, if they say that the city you're living in enforces bells than get a bell, otherwise there's no point besides trying to sound cute to people on the path, or if you by some chance have a very weak voice.

But if you want to be heard in traffic then get a horn. There is one on the market that is lightweight made for bikes called the Hornit, it puts out dB140 of sound with the Upgraded V3 Model, it's the world's loudest Bicycle Horn, and it runs off of 2 AAA or maybe AA batteries, the batteries will last about a year if you short blast it once a day for a year, the cost is less than $35 on Amazon. That horn is at least twice as loud as any bell. That horn can be heard by motorists with their windows up, but might not be heard if they have their stereo blasting.

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froze wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:33 pm
A bell is only good on bike paths, on the street a motorist in a car is not going to remotely hear a bell, the only thing a car could hear would be one of those compressed air horns!
Who would use a bell to alert cars?
Should be common sense that a bell on a street full of cars is not very effective.

froze
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by froze

jayjay wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:00 am
froze wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:33 pm
A bell is only good on bike paths, on the street a motorist in a car is not going to remotely hear a bell, the only thing a car could hear would be one of those compressed air horns!
Who would use a bell to alert cars?
Should be common sense that a bell on a street full of cars is not very effective.
You would think, but over the years on various forums, there were people that thought a car could hear a good bell!

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by covfefe

froze wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:35 pm
This forum is about weight weenies, screaming is a lot lighter weight than having a bell.
Safety is more important than weight. If a bell doesn't make sense, where you're from, then you get to save those extra grams. Good for you.

Where I'm from there are a lot of bikepaths. I have 20-30 min on bikepaths just to get out of the city. And the bikepaths are swarming with families on cargo bikes, that take up the whole bikepath - it's utter chaos. Yelling at people is considered very rude - especially since bells are required by law. So a bell is a must-have here. And it is just a joy politely to tell people to f.... off with my bell. If you yell at people here, you are the joke, and people will just yell back "get a bell".

So in my experience loud is better than pretty when it comes to bells. I haven't found a really loud one yet. Both Spur and Knog are definitely not loud enough for my taste. And they need to be loud, because everyone else is riding with their headphones. I have bought at least 10-12 different bells for testing in the hope of finding a loud one. But still no succes. Had hoped there where some suggestions in this topic.

froze
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by froze

covfefe wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:14 am
froze wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:35 pm
This forum is about weight weenies, screaming is a lot lighter weight than having a bell.
Safety is more important than weight. If a bell doesn't make sense, where you're from, then you get to save those extra grams. Good for you.

Where I'm from there are a lot of bikepaths. I have 20-30 min on bikepaths just to get out of the city. And the bikepaths are swarming with families on cargo bikes, that take up the whole bikepath - it's utter chaos. Yelling at people is considered very rude - especially since bells are required by law. So a bell is a must-have here. And it is just a joy politely to tell people to f.... off with my bell. If you yell at people here, you are the joke, and people will just yell back "get a bell".

So in my experience loud is better than pretty when it comes to bells. I haven't found a really loud one yet. Both Spur and Knog are definitely not loud enough for my taste. And they need to be loud, because everyone else is riding with their headphones. I have bought at least 10-12 different bells for testing in the hope of finding a loud one. But still no succes. Had hoped there where some suggestions in this topic.
Where I live it takes me about 20 minutes to get out into the country on bike paths going south, and about an hour to get out into the country on paths going north, lots of people in certain sections where the path goes through parks. But I live in America, and no one considers it rude to yell at people, everyone on bikes where I live yell all the time. If we were screaming "GET THE F OFF THE ROAD", then that would be rude! Either way, a bell or yelling, you still have to slow down as you approach people, because people can't decide to go left or right.

But if you want and or need a bell then get one.

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https://www.triggerbell.com/

I use this one. It's small and unobtrusive and can be used from the tops as well as the drops.

covfefe
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by covfefe

froze wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:34 am
Where I live it takes me about 20 minutes to get out into the country on bike paths going south, and about an hour to get out into the country on paths going north, lots of people in certain sections where the path goes through parks. But I live in America, and no one considers it rude to yell at people, everyone on bikes where I live yell all the time. If we were screaming "GET THE F OFF THE ROAD", then that would be rude! Either way, a bell or yelling, you still have to slow down as you approach people, because people can't decide to go left or right.

But if you want and or need a bell then get one.
Different places different cultures I guess.

The good thing about a loud bell is, that people will hear it from further away and have time to decide wether going left or right. And you actually don't have to slow down, because the road is clear, when you pass people.

Just out of curiousity, what is that you're actually yelling? Is just non verbal sounds or actual words?

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covfefe wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:28 pm
Just out of curiousity, what is that you're actually yelling? Is just non verbal sounds or actual words?
*Ding Ding* :lol:

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by warthog101

covfefe wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:28 pm

Just out of curiousity, what is that you're actually yelling? Is just non verbal sounds or actual words?
"passing on your right"

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