Help me pick my next wheelset

[treyxt]

Already posted in another thread but wanted to get more opinions/added a few wheelsets to the options.

I can get 15% off LightBicycle and potentially 20% off Reserve.

Me: 195cm Tall, 88-90KG
Bike: Tarmac SL7
Current Wheelset: LB AR46 with Novatech Hubs and Pillar Aero X-TRA 1420 Spokes

Options I'm considering:

LB Turbo 50 Front / 50 Rear - DT240 - Sapim CX Ray / Sprint Rear Drive Side: ~1373g / $1090.89 + $122 Shipping = $1,212.89
- Front/Rear: 25mm internal / 32mm at rim edge / 34.5mm at widest
- Link to rim profile
- Link to detailed cross section as posted by alanyu

LB Turbo 50 Front / 65 Rear - DT240 - Sapim CX Ray / Sprint Rear Drive Side: ~1458g / $1090.89 + $122 Shipping = $1,212.89
- Front: 25mm internal / 32mm at rim edge / 34.5mm at widest
- Rear: 25mm internal / 32mm at rim edge / 35mm at widest
- Link to front rim profile
- Link to rear rim profile

Reserve 42/49 - DT350: ~1429g / (not sure if I need to pay shipping) $1,525.55
- Front: 25.4mm internal / 34.4mm external (30mm at rim edge? based off 52/63 rim profile)
- Rear: 24.8mm internal / 32.1mm external Width (29mm at rim edge? based off 52/63 rim profile)
- There is no rim profile anywhere that I can find.

Reserve 52/63 - DT350: ~1660g / (not sure if I need to pay shipping) $1,525.55
- Front: 25.4mm internal / 30.72mm at rim edge / 34.74mm max external
- Rear: 24.8mm internal / 29.23mm at rim edge / 34.3mm max external
- Link to rim profile (I added the rim edge widths, based off the max external width for correct measurement, done in illustrator)

Roval Rapide CLX II (51/60) - USED (A few scuffs, not bad for the price) - ~1,520g / already have talked to the seller, $1400 cash
- Front: 21mm internal / 35mm external
- Rear: 21mm internal / 30mm External (~28mm at rim edge? See rim profile image below)
- Link to rim profile
- Link to images of the used wheelset

NEXTIE NXT50CGX (50/50) - DT240 - Sapim CX Ray: ~1394g / $1220 + $174 Shipping = $1394
- Front/Rear: 25mm internal / 32mm at rim edge / 34mm at widest
- Link to rim profile

YOELEO SAT C50 DB PRO NxT SL2 (50/50) - Yoeleo Hub - Pillar WING 20 Aero: ~1350g / free shipping = $999
- Front/Rear: 23mm internal / 32mm external (Rim edge unknown)
- There is no rim profile anywhere that I can find.

My thoughts:

I think 25mm internal might be a little too much, 23mm is probably ideal to avoid tires ballooning out too much, but not sure I am trusting/sold on the Yoeleo wheelset, especially without seeing the rim profile. In reality any of these options will likely be faster with wider wheels and better in crosswinds over my current LB AR46 (More V-Shaped and only 28mm external).

Right now I'm leaning towards the LightBicycle Turbo 50s or Roval Rapides.

If I go LB, is it worth getting the Sprint rear drive side spokes for the added weight?

What are your thoughts? Should I be considering any other wheelsets around or under the $1500 range?

[pdlpsher1]

I'm not a big fan of wide (internally) rims. 21mm for road is the sweet spot. If you put a 30mm tire on a 25mm internally wide rim, the sidewall gets exposed (due to the tire tread not on top of the sidewall to protect it) and that will result in more sidewall cuts. In addition the ride will be quite bad as the sidewall becomes less vertical. A more vertical sidewall absorbs shocks better and produces more predictable cornering. You want a rim that is narrow internally but wide externally (i.e. the Roval). Another good choice is the LB AR45, which is an upgrade over your current AR46 (I have both the AR45 and AR46).

[treyxt]

I would prefer a 21-23mm internal with a 32-33mm external. AR45 is too narrow externally, I ideally want to run 30mm tires.

[pdlpsher1]

I run 32mm 5000 S TR with my AR45s. The tires are 33mm wide at 57psi. With 30mm tires it should be no more than 31mm. Don't fall for the 105% rule. You'll be giving up so much of other things when you're chasing the last watt of aero gain. It's not worth it in the real world. My 32mm with AR45 at 57psi ride like a dream. And I don't feel they are slow at all.

[nullptr]

I'm looking for exactly the same wheelset and I'm pretty set on the LB Turbo with DT240/CX. It's a very reasonable choice in today's market filled with propietary hubs and carbon spoke options that are unservicable. The rim profile seems to do very well in crosswinds and is perfectly suited for 28-30mm tires.

[treyxt]

I think I'm leaning towards the LB Turbo 50/50 or 50/65, which rim depth are you looking at? Would going for the CX Sprint rear drive side spokes make any meaniful difference for me? (88-90kg)

[gksplash]

Looking to build myself a set of LB, any suggestions for a top choice : 45mm, clincher, rim brakes ..

[208]

Personal opinion is those lb turbo rims are going to make your classic sl7 frame look like ass. Pure ass.

I have a set of one of the reserves, so I'm probably biased, but looking at your internal width preference and my opinion is that specialized wheels and specialized frame just look nice together... I'd pick the 52|62 for myself for obvious reasons, but the clx ii are made for your frame and look fantastic together.

Clx ii are my vote.

[Aesch]

I think I'm leaning towards the LB Turbo 50/50 or 50/65, which rim depth are you looking at? Would going for the CX Sprint rear drive side spokes make any meaniful difference for me? (88-90kg)

I'd go 28 spokes front and rear at least at that weight. Sprint does not add much above the spoke count any more.

[treyxt]

Personal opinion is those lb turbo rims are going to make your classic sl7 frame look like ass. Pure ass.

I have a set of one of the reserves, so I'm probably biased, but looking at your internal width preference and my opinion is that specialized wheels and specialized frame just look nice together... I'd pick the 52|62 for myself for obvious reasons, but the clx ii are made for your frame and look fantastic together.

Clx ii are my vote.

I ended up going with a pair of never ridden Rapide CLX gen 1 wheels. Only $1360 including new RT-MT900 rotors and new turbo cotton tires. I only run latex tubes so I figured might as well save the weight and get Gen 1. He took them off the day he got his SL7 and they sat ever since. Happy with that!

[208]

Personal opinion is those lb turbo rims are going to make your classic sl7 frame look like ass. Pure ass.

I have a set of one of the reserves, so I'm probably biased, but looking at your internal width preference and my opinion is that specialized wheels and specialized frame just look nice together... I'd pick the 52|62 for myself for obvious reasons, but the clx ii are made for your frame and look fantastic together.

Clx ii are my vote.

I ended up going with a pair of never ridden Rapide CLX gen 1 wheels. Only $1360 including new RT-MT900 rotors and new turbo cotton tires. I only run latex tubes so I figured might as well save the weight and get Gen 1. He took them off the day he got his SL7 and they sat ever since. Happy with that!

Proper bargain

[Kurt1980]

Hi all, looking for wheelset advice as well.

Ideal wheelset is aero/all round, so 50ish mm would be good. Wanting modern widths for tyres at either 28 or 30mm, and modern profiles for good handling, although a slight prioritisation of aero over handling is ok as they won't be super deep.

Ideally I'd be getting the latest Rovals, but short of a sponsorship or sudden financial windfall, I think I'll have to skip them.

A few possibilites jumping out at me in their place are:

1. Newmen All round which look to be around 1330-1350g, and it would seem well designed with CFD and maybe wind tunnel testing? There's been a bit of chat about water ingress to the hub, but then a later poster stated you could buy the mtb end caps which offer better sealing. The aero valves seem like they would take getting used to, so that looks like the only potential negative. Depth is 49/54mm. 1500 E shipped to Australia

2. R2 bike also build wheels, and offer Duke rims that are 56mm deep, 25mm IW, 33mm OW. Weight is probably going to be 1450g with DT Swiss 240s, a bit lighter with Carbon Ti or other hubs. Duke seem to have a good reputation. 1450 E shipped to Australia.

Duke RX 56 rim profile.png (37.86 KiB) Viewed 1834 times

3. Wild card are the Yoeleo Sat 60DB Next SL. Obviously a bit deeper, and new/not proven. I was initially a bit suspiscious of the rim profile at the tyre bead, as they angle in quite a bit, so even though the IW is ok, I imagine there would be a decent divot at the tyre/bead interface. Not sure whether that would change any aero performance, and I see that the Newmen and rear Roval has this as well, so maybe a nothing burger? I'm aware of the existing thread here, and the concerns about the low weight for the depth. 1330-1350g it seems. 1070 E shipped to Australia. Ideally these would be 55mm, but what's 5mm between friends? Haha.

Does anyone have any experience, and ideally pros/cons of one over the other? I'm 72kg, 300W ftp, racing all sorts of events from sometimes crits to hill climbs, to road races.



Thanks!

[Agent041]

Regarding Newmans, you do not have to run them with aero walves. It is an option. You can run them with tubeless valve, as well as normal inner tube. But you will then need rubber adapter on the inner side of the rim (where the valve comes out).

I would also include Farsports wheels on your list. Wheather from main Farsports.com site or custom build Wheelsfar.com site, which would probably better be for your specific need. Lots of positive reviews from users from that thread. The value is hard to beat.
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[Singlish]

Have you looked at the Ascent Polaris 42 (1300g) or 56 (1400g), or even asking them for a 42/56 mix? 23mm internal, good value. Share your secret on Reserve discounts, are they giving out discount codes?

[Kurt1980]

Regarding Newmans, you do not have to run them with aero walves. It is an option. You can run them with tubeless valve, as well as normal inner tube. But you will then need rubber adapter on the inner side of the rim (where the valve comes out).

I would also include Farsports wheels on your list. Wheather from main Farsports.com site or custom build Wheelsfar.com site, which would probably better be for your specific need. Lots of positive reviews from users from that thread. The value is hard to beat.
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Thanks for the info re: valve...good to know.

I was initially thinking of Farsports, as I had some rim brake wheels of theirs that were quite good. I'm not sure of the rim profiles though, so I'm undecided as to whether there is a true aero benefit to their wheels. Is there any testing anyone is aware of? This is especially in relation to the 30mm width at the "brake track", obviously thinner than Newmen, Duke and Roval of course.