Next Gen YEOLEO Wheels

[BeachRdWarrior]

Just watched the latest Patrick Lino video on the new Yeoleo wheels... these things are interesting!

Patty's review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzpHNs7nzPs&t=78s
website: https://www.yoeleobike.com/collections/ ... thlon-road

*I'm not affiliated with either - just opening up conversation about these exceptional-on-paper wheels, what a crazy stat line!*

Depth: 60mm
Internal: 23mm
External: 32mm
Weight: 1330g +/- 5%
Hooked
Steel Spokes

Questions for the well connected and informed out there:
1: does anyone have a rim profile for these? I've tried reaching out with no response so far.
2: does anyone have any data on these? Aero, stiffness, stability?
3: what's the general concensus on yeoleo around here? please share thoughts, experiences, expectations based on past performance.

[Mr.Gib]

My reaction is that 60mm deep and steel spokes at 1330 grams could be a problem. There is no free lunch - there is likely a significant comprimise when it comes to durability. Could be rim? or hubs? Maybe both.

The other problem with Yoleo is the history of stuffing phoney reviews into web forums. I'd be extremely weary of mysterious low count forum members suddenly providing jargon filled positive commentary. I have no issue with Lino - he seems a solid bloke, though his views are comprimised in the same way most of these YouTubers are.

[wheelbuilder]

My reaction is that 60mm deep and steel spokes at 1330 grams could be a problem. There is no free lunch - there is likely a significant comprimise when it comes to durability. Could be rim? or hubs? Maybe both.

The other problem with Yoleo is the history of stuffing phoney reviews into web forums. I'd be extremely weary of mysterious low count forum members suddenly providing jargon filled positive commentary. I have no issue with Lino - he seems a solid bloke, though his views are comprimised in the same way most of these YouTubers are.

I also like Lino. He does seem to review anything anyone will send him and give high praise to it.
Agree with Gib. They are using Alpina or similar super lightweight spokes or that layup is crazy thin and lightweight untested hubs. That seems too light at 60 depth. Must be a rider weight limit.

[pdlpsher1]

I looked at the specs online. They are using Pillar Wing 20 spokes. These are good spokes but they weigh the same as CX-Ray. I also saw the -/+5% weight variance listed. At 1,330g -/+5%, it would be 1,397g at +5%. 1,397g is about right for a 60mm deep rim. My LB 45mm wheels weigh 1,302g using CX-Ray, flyweight layup, and DT180 hubs (HG).

ps just watched the video and his set came out to be 1,373g (with XDR freehub). That is still light, so I guess the rims and hubs are quite light. They are using filiment wounding which some manufacturers are now using. Very interesting.

[BeachRdWarrior]

I found it quite strange that he finds the CRW 5060 worse with respect to cross wind handling compared to these... pretty surprised by that. Would love to see the rim profile for this reason.

[justinfoxphotos]

God damn! Everything is getting lighter AND cheaper. I bet those graphics are under the clearcoat though

[patliean1]

Unfortunately striving to be the perfect YouTuber for all people is impossible. Nor is that my goal obviously

Western branded frames like my Tarmac SL8 and Giant Propel, electronic groupsets, power meters, and other misc components like handlebars are all items I have to financially support myself. It's expensive yet we tend to gloss over this at times. Major companies aren't exactly knocking on my door to support my low-level channel. Ironically, I paid for my Tavelo Attack and CRW 5060 wheels. Because, ya know, I wouldn't expect Panda Podium to send free stuff to a YouTuber with only 10,000 subs. Lastly, the majority of products I feature I give high praise to simply because...they're actually good products. Shocking I know. Taking on wheels/frames that have a chance of being a dud is waste of everyone's time. What we don't see are all the products I decline to review...

As someone who:
-Doesn't race crits.
-Isn't an engineer.
-Doesn't have decades of industry experience.
-And isn't backed by corporate sponsorships/funding.

I'm not above criticism or critique. I do my best to offer up commentary while catering to the demographic of someone like myself. I train 10-12 hours/wk, enjoy competitive group rides, and strive to be as fit as I can be. Occasionally road race here and there, but mainly from the perspective of a enthusiast recreational rider. Viewers of the channel aren't looking for technical data or opinions of a racer. Those spots are filled by other YouTubers. Jokingly I considered starting a GoFundMe to raise money in order to keep my channel as "independent" and "uncompromised" as possible. But even that still has its fallacies. My channel isn't for everyone. Thankfully there are plenty of other YouTubers doing it waaaaay better than me. I'm just appreciative of the support I've receieved from this forum and others. Thank you!

About the CRW5060s: Yup they don't handle crosswinds well. They are better on my SL8 but not so much on my Propel. Perhaps I should swap the Yoeleo wheels on Propel to see if I experience similar instability. Maybe it's just the frame itself. Maybe Yoeleo has some magic sauce. But the CRW5060s are still my favorite set of road wheels.

Would you guys like me to reach out to Yoeleo regarding their descision of hubs and carbon layup? They are pretty light considering the specs for sure.

[Mr.Gib]

My LB 45mm wheels weigh 1,302g using CX-Ray, flyweight layup, and DT180 hubs (HG).

My flyweight LB 50mm are 1350g with Carbon Ti hubs. Both our wheels are right at the limit of what is adequately robust for a full size adult male. And in my case the Carbon Ti rear hub is not really adequate for my 76kg. I am literally denting the alloy axle with the inboard freehub bearing - a significant comprimise in durabilty. What are the odds that the Yoleo hub is as solid as your 180's? I'm a little skeptical about how a wheel like this would survive a couple of seasons of high level crit racing under a decent size rider. Time will tell.

[BeachRdWarrior]

Unfortunately striving to be the perfect YouTuber for all people is impossible. Nor is that my goal obviously

Just want to say I'm a subscriber on YT and really enjoy your content! I am in no way criticising your work and I hope you continue to grow the channel so we can live vicariously through your experiences

[apr46]

I think the 60mm rim in particular is light. I am thinking they are in the 440g ballpark? Hubs as light as the DT Swiss 180 are all over aliexpress, so no shock. This is all conjecture as I have no idea how much either the hubs or these rims weigh, but based on the other depths my bet is that the 60mm rim IS a bit of a outlier compared to most of what is out there while the 50mm and other depths are right in line with rims like the LB Pro series in their flyweight layup. Either way its not by that much, and while there is a lot to like here I don't think it is that interesting.

[toxin]

Don't like the lacing on the front. With 1:1 spoke count ratio, strenght will be biased towards the drive side as it is both radially laced and has a better bracing angle. Just regular 2:1 lacing would be better imo. Wing 20 aren't the most aero spokes around either.

[spartan]

same carbon layup the specialized/roval uses for the team edition of the rapide can achieive 1360gm i am sure the other chinese rim manufacturers have same access to the latest/greatest carbon.
roval charge 5000 dollars Farsports/Yeoleo sub 1500k.

[RDY]

My LB 45mm wheels weigh 1,302g using CX-Ray, flyweight layup, and DT180 hubs (HG).

My flyweight LB 50mm are 1350g with Carbon Ti hubs. Both our wheels are right at the limit of what is adequately robust for a full size adult male. And in my case the Carbon Ti rear hub is not really adequate for my 76kg. I am literally denting the alloy axle with the inboard freehub bearing - a significant comprimise in durabilty. What are the odds that the Yoleo hub is as solid as your 180's? I'm a little skeptical about how a wheel like this would survive a couple of seasons of high level crit racing under a decent size rider. Time will tell.

There's something wrong with the hub then. There's absolutely no way someone of 76kg should be doing that, assuming they're not regularly putting down 2000W sprints. Never had any issue with my carbonTi hubs, I'm heavier than you and hammer them on a gravel wheelset.

[RDY]

Observation re: these wheels ... the non disc side of the front hub is radial. Better than the disc side obviously, but still sus af imo.

https://www.yoeleobike.com/cdn/shop/fil ... 1718779325

[patliean1]

Observation re: these wheels ... the non disc side of the front hub is radial. Better than the disc side obviously, but still sus af imo.

https://www.yoeleobike.com/cdn/shop/fil ... 1718779325

When it comes to spoke lacing, how does this affect braking/performace/wheel dynamics? This is one area (among several) I understand very little about.