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satanas
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by satanas

wltz wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:30 am
...who the hell cares about touring tyres RR
^ My guess is people who go touring; some tyres aimed at tourists are slow AF so it's a legitimate concern, and time and effort wasted all adds up.

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spartan
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by spartan

the new maxxis high road sl scored high in the latest Tour Mag. they claim almost as fast as GP5k str
Current Rides:

2025 Giant Propel Advanced SL 9270
2023 Tarmac SL7 Di2 9270
ex 2019 S-works SL6
ex 2018 Trek Madone SLR Disc
ex 2016 Giant TCRAdvanced Sl
ex 2012 Trek Madone7

spartan
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by spartan

also latest 30mm tire RR test

pirelli new king
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Current Rides:

2025 Giant Propel Advanced SL 9270
2023 Tarmac SL7 Di2 9270
ex 2019 S-works SL6
ex 2018 Trek Madone SLR Disc
ex 2016 Giant TCRAdvanced Sl
ex 2012 Trek Madone7

jfbrtn
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by jfbrtn

Do Tour mag explain their testing protocol? Seems to be the first place where the Pirelli test faster than the GP5000str.

TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

jfbrtn wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:03 pm
Do Tour mag explain their testing protocol? Seems to be the first place where the Pirelli test faster than the GP5000str.
BikeRadar had the non-RS P Zero Race TLRs faster than the GP5K S TR. They did drum-style test at SSEH without a rider.

xav
Director of AeroCoach
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by xav

xav wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:43 pm
BigBoyND wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:42 pm
The BRR voting pattern for road tires makes me think people prefer to see common tires tested 10 times in different sizes than to find hidden gems. The Bonti RSL might fall off this month for a 26mm Aero 111 which is sized like a 24mm tire. Something I didnt think anyone would choose in 2024.
I reckon we could do the RSL soon-ish, will definitely add it to the list :) probably in 26 & 28 before anything else
We've now done the test on the Bontrager RSL in size 26mm, looks like it'll be just behind the Conti 111 in terms of Crr but full data out on Wed/Thu I think!

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

Glad to see more data. How does it compare to the Corsa Pro, on which I assume the tire is based?

TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:44 pm

Just got back from the shop and got a chance to compare a 28mm Corsa Pro and Aeolus RSL side-by-side.

- Casing width is identical
- The Aeolus RSL tread cap is 7-8mm wider, it looks like it has at least 52% tread coverage, which would be greater than any other tire in this class.
- The Aeolus rubber felt grippier when I ran my finger across it, but that could be down to the tread pattern.

Called it!

While the tread compound seems to be the same, there's basically no reason to buy an actual Corsa Pro or Corsa Pro Control over the Aeolus RSL. Wild.

Jaisen
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by Jaisen

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:54 pm
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:44 pm

Just got back from the shop and got a chance to compare a 28mm Corsa Pro and Aeolus RSL side-by-side.

- Casing width is identical
- The Aeolus RSL tread cap is 7-8mm wider, it looks like it has at least 52% tread coverage, which would be greater than any other tire in this class.
- The Aeolus rubber felt grippier when I ran my finger across it, but that could be down to the tread pattern.

Called it!

While the tread compound seems to be the same, there's basically no reason to buy an actual Corsa Pro or Corsa Pro Control over the Aeolus RSL. Wild.
Agreed the RSL is better in every way plus where I am they are 25-30% less expensive than Vitoria branded ones.

Kubackjeee
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by Kubackjeee

Just bought two RSL's on sale under 100€ so couldn't resist such a good offer.
Scott addict rc - DuraAce 6.9kg
Sp cycle G056 gravel - Sram mullet AXS 8.4kg

xav
Director of AeroCoach
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by xav

BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:36 am
Glad to see more data. How does it compare to the Corsa Pro, on which I assume the tire is based?
We had it as a bit worse than the Corsa Pro actually, data here: https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/time-trial ... tance-data

Aesch
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by Aesch

Kubackjeee wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:29 am
Just bought two RSL's on sale under 100€ so couldn't resist such a good offer.
They're 90 euros each in the NL...

froze
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by froze

Not sure why anyone would spend over $60 for a tire, not alone over $100 if you're not racing, for a tire that will only last 2,000 miles and some only last 1,000 miles...but I'm a tightwad, owning businesses does that to a person.

I always look for closeout deals on tires, I have a pair of Specialized S-Works Turbo Road Tire 2-Pack, 700x24mm coming around the 7th I got from Excel Sports for $45 including taxes and shipping. While those tires are not the fastest tires on the block, I'm not freaking racing, so for me to ride 40 miles and return home 15 to 30 seconds later isn't going to bother me.

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

Yeah but now you'll be stuck on 24mm tires. If Excel paid me the 45€ to ride them, I'd still rather buy something else!

Do only business owners have budgets or is this a "how do you know someone's a vegan" situation?

6fu
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by 6fu

Aesch wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:17 pm
Kubackjeee wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:29 am
Just bought two RSL's on sale under 100€ so couldn't resist such a good offer.
They're 90 euros each in the NL...
Yeah, hard to justify extra 30€ per tire when corsa pro can be bought in EU for 60€.

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