Continental Aero 111

[Lakal]

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Just received the 29mm version.
Compared to a GP5000 clincher, the surface is a lot more smooth.

What's the weight of the two tires?

I didn't weigh them. But the specified weight is the same for both (280 grams)

[BigBoyND]

So these will likely see similar RR to the S TR. Hopefully there will be a 111 TT version with the TT TR as the base. Otherwise they are leaving speed on the table.

Or maybe the tread on the TT TR isn't deep enough for these cutouts.

[Lakal]

Just measured again and it's 30mm now after 30 hours and a 80k ride yesterday.
I noticed that the tire seemed to attract almost every stone on the road for the first 100 metres or so. I don't remember if that's also the case with the other GP5000 versions? Last time I had that experience was with Vittoria Next.

[adamallo]

So these will likely see similar RR to the S TR. Hopefully there will be a 111 TT version with the TT TR as the base. Otherwise they are leaving speed on the table.

Or maybe the tread on the TT TR isn't deep enough for these cutouts.

I got the 26c version and just measured the depth of the cutouts at ~1mm in the deepest section. According to BRR, the S have 3 layers of casing in the sidewalls and 2 + vectran under the tread, while the TTs keep the same casing under the tread (with less rubber) but have only 2 layers of casing in the sidewalls. Considering the center of the TT measures 1.8mm and the sidewalls 0.8mm, I think BigBoyND is right, and they could not make an Aero 111 with the current TT construction (1.8-1 = 0.8, which is the thickness of the sidewalls, so no space left for the vectran). Of course, they could make a version with the sidewall construction of the TTs but with more rubber in the tread.

According to the exploded views of the Aero 111 that circulate online, the construction structure is the same as the S TR.

[208]

did ag2r run the 111 on their tt bikes? or just their road bikes?

if they're only running them on their road bikes, chances are there is a tt version coming. the aero 111 tt s sl tr rs tlr

[OtterSpace]

did ag2r run the 111 on their tt bikes? or just their road bikes?

if they're only running them on their road bikes, chances are there is a tt version coming. the aero 111 tt s sl tr rs tlr

aero 111! tldr

still better than computer monitor names though

[6fu]

Still a lot better than pirelli naming

[K4m1k4z3]

I know they aren't the fastest in terms of rolling resistance, but this discussion makes me wonder how the Specialized Turbo tyres perform in terms of aerodynamics. The pattern and its placement on the shoulders of the tyre kinda reminds me of vortex generators some companies are putting on the shoulders/arms of TT skinsuits.

[mrlobber]

For aero, more often than not what looks like something doesn't perform like that aero-wise

[alanyu]

I know they aren't the fastest in terms of rolling resistance, but this discussion makes me wonder how the Specialized Turbo tyres perform in terms of aerodynamics. The pattern and its placement on the shoulders of the tyre kinda reminds me of vortex generators some companies are putting on the shoulders/arms of TT skinsuits.

Turbo is one of the worst aero performance tyres. FLO had a test years ago but I think they put it down. My personal experience with Turbo 2BR is they made my wheels much less stable in Xwind compared to GP5K and Pro 1.

[TobinHatesYou]

I know they aren't the fastest in terms of rolling resistance, but this discussion makes me wonder how the Specialized Turbo tyres perform in terms of aerodynamics. The pattern and its placement on the shoulders of the tyre kinda reminds me of vortex generators some companies are putting on the shoulders/arms of TT skinsuits.

It’s my understanding that the Aero 111 vortex generators essentially create a wide and virtually shallow continuous trip strip at high RPM for crosswinds flowing over the tire. They don’t work how you think they do. It’s not for reducing drag at 0deg yaw and that’s shown in their own test data.

[cleanneon98]

Still a lot better than pirelli naming

When you actually look at the lineup, its not that complicated. Keep in mind some tires come TLR and non-TLR

Race - similar to 5000 AS TR
Race 4S - not sure what this compares to in conti lineup
Race SL (pretty sure this is going away replaced by the RS)
Race TT - similar to 5000 TT?
Race RS - similar to 5000 S TR

[CampagYOLO]

Still a lot better than pirelli naming

When you actually look at the lineup, its not that complicated. Keep in mind some tires come TLR and non-TLR

Race - similar to 5000 AS TR
Race 4S - not sure what this compares to in conti lineup
Race SL (pretty sure this is going away replaced by the RS)
Race TT - similar to 5000 TT?
Race RS - similar to 5000 S TR

Judging by the latest test on BRR the 4S is replacing the Cinturato. So basically a tubeless version of the 4 season or the Gatorskin.

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... -tlr-4s-32

[usr]

Just measured again and it's 30mm now after 30 hours and a 80k ride yesterday.
I noticed that the tire seemed to attract almost every stone on the road for the first 100 metres or so. I don't remember if that's also the case with the other GP5000 versions? Last time I had that experience was with Vittoria Next.

This is mostly a question of shelf age of the particular tire in question I think. Fresh from the production line they will pick up everything (and get very low mileage), if it already sat in some warehouse for a few years before eventually finding a buyer observations will be very different.

[TobinHatesYou]

Just measured again and it's 30mm now after 30 hours and a 80k ride yesterday.
I noticed that the tire seemed to attract almost every stone on the road for the first 100 metres or so. I don't remember if that's also the case with the other GP5000 versions? Last time I had that experience was with Vittoria Next.

This is mostly a question of shelf age of the particular tire in question I think. Fresh from the production line they will pick up everything (and get very low mileage), if it already sat in some warehouse for a few years before eventually finding a buyer observations will be very different.

Tread patterns matter. Vittoria’s ribbed tread pattern behaves like gecko feet/toes. They pick up small bits of asphalt and grit and fling them at your DT / ST. The grid-like tread on Gravel Kings is also horrible.

The vortex generators on the Aero 111 are basically little shovels to my eyes.