Continental Aero 111

[Jaisen]

The total resistance (aero+crr) seems to be higher for this tire compared to the S TR or Corsa Pro speed. Which makes sense at typical low yaw angles. So yeah, for a TT still not the best option.

But for a fast every day tire (or longer road races like Granfondo's) I think it's still a great option:

- Rolling resistance pretty close to the faster rolling regular tires (S TR, P Zero RS)
- More stability in cross-winds
- Potentially substantial advantages in scenarios where there is a high cross-wind
- High level op grip
- High level of wet weather grip
- Good puncture resistance

My next tire likely will be this one on the front, paired with a P Zero RS at the back.

Given the better grip results (very marginal), why not just go with the Aero 111 front and back? I know the Aero 111 is designed as front only, but overall it seems to make for a solid all rounder. The price difference, in my market, between the P Zero RS and the Aero 111 is 3$.

[Requiem84]

The total resistance (aero+crr) seems to be higher for this tire compared to the S TR or Corsa Pro speed. Which makes sense at typical low yaw angles. So yeah, for a TT still not the best option.

But for a fast every day tire (or longer road races like Granfondo's) I think it's still a great option:

- Rolling resistance pretty close to the faster rolling regular tires (S TR, P Zero RS)
- More stability in cross-winds
- Potentially substantial advantages in scenarios where there is a high cross-wind
- High level op grip
- High level of wet weather grip
- Good puncture resistance

My next tire likely will be this one on the front, paired with a P Zero RS at the back.

Given the better grip results (very marginal), why not just go with the Aero 111 front and back? I know the Aero 111 is designed as front only, but overall it seems to make for a solid all rounder. The price difference, in my market, between the P Zero RS and the Aero 111 is 3$.

The price for an Aero 111 in 29mm here (NL) is about 100-120 euro's what I can see. A P Zero TLR RS is 60 euro's... CRR is similar, but the P Zero has slightly better puncture resistance.

[Jaisen]

The total resistance (aero+crr) seems to be higher for this tire compared to the S TR or Corsa Pro speed. Which makes sense at typical low yaw angles. So yeah, for a TT still not the best option.

But for a fast every day tire (or longer road races like Granfondo's) I think it's still a great option:

- Rolling resistance pretty close to the faster rolling regular tires (S TR, P Zero RS)
- More stability in cross-winds
- Potentially substantial advantages in scenarios where there is a high cross-wind
- High level op grip
- High level of wet weather grip
- Good puncture resistance

My next tire likely will be this one on the front, paired with a P Zero RS at the back.

Given the better grip results (very marginal), why not just go with the Aero 111 front and back? I know the Aero 111 is designed as front only, but overall it seems to make for a solid all rounder. The price difference, in my market, between the P Zero RS and the Aero 111 is 3$.

The price for an Aero 111 in 29mm here (NL) is about 100-120 euro's what I can see. A P Zero TLR RS is 60 euro's... CRR is similar, but the P Zero has slightly better puncture resistance.

Interesting, currently I can get them for 83 Euro for the Pirelli and 86 for the Continental in Canada. Weird how inconsistent the pricing is across markets. I guess that should be all the incentive I need to give the Aero 111's a try.

[TobinHatesYou]

Given the better grip results (very marginal), why not just go with the Aero 111 front and back? I know the Aero 111 is designed as front only, but overall it seems to make for a solid all rounder. The price difference, in my market, between the P Zero RS and the Aero 111 is 3$.

In the US the P Zero Race TLR RS is on sale from one reputable source for $78. That's $42 cheaper than an Aero 111. Lordgun has them for $53 with $13 shipping if I buy 3, $20 shipping if I buy 7.

[openwheelracing]

So you are mixing Conti Aero111 with Pirelli? No issue running that?

[TobinHatesYou]

What would the issue be? IMO there are three tires worth running in a mass-start road race or crit: Aero 111, GP5K TT and P Zero Race RS.

The regular GP5K S TR is no longer in the conversation.

[spdntrxi]

What would the issue be? IMO there are three tires worth running in a mass-start road race or crit: Aero 111, GP5K TT and P Zero Race RS.

The regular GP5K S TR is no longer in the conversation.

I agree... and atleast for me I add the Enve Race Day

[JWTS]

What would the issue be? IMO there are three tires worth running in a mass-start road race or crit: Aero 111, GP5K TT and P Zero Race RS.

The regular GP5K S TR is no longer in the conversation.

It's an interesting take. I mean, almost half of the world tour disagrees with you... I have some miles on the TT and I totally agree with you on using it over the 5000S personally, but I'm also ~60kg and the flat gods have blessed me throughout my life. "no longer in the conversation" seems a bit...ridiculous. It still rolls faster than the Pirelli and has more puncture protection than the TT and the Aero 111. I think it's still a relavent tire.

[apr46]

To me, the more exciting question goes back to the shallow vs. deep wheels conversation in the main thread a couple of months ago. What is the preferable front-wheel tire combination for road riding?

• 111 on a "regular" 50mm rim (e.g., the front wheel of the Enve 4.5)

• GP5k S TR or P Zero RS on a 50mm "wide shoulder" rim (e.g,. roval rapide)

• 111 on a 60mm+ "regular" rim (e.g,. e.g., enve 6.7 or the 62mm DT swiss wheel)

• GP5k S TR or P Zero RS on a 60mm+ "wind stable" rim (e.g., Ascent Polaris 69mm)

[TobinHatesYou]

What would the issue be? IMO there are three tires worth running in a mass-start road race or crit: Aero 111, GP5K TT and P Zero Race RS.

The regular GP5K S TR is no longer in the conversation.

It's an interesting take. I mean, almost half of the world tour disagrees with you... I have some miles on the TT and I totally agree with you on using it over the 5000S personally, but I'm also ~60kg and the flat gods have blessed me throughout my life. "no longer in the conversation" seems a bit...ridiculous. It still rolls faster than the Pirelli and has more puncture protection than the TT and the Aero 111. I think it's still a relavent tire.

World Tour teams are sponsored, and the GP5K TT is a great tire so I would happily be sponsored by Continental. Ineos famously didn't have a single flat in the TdF while running the GP5K TT almost exclusively.

Since we're not sponsored, we can mix-n-match whatever tires we want without breaking out the black marker pen. The P Zero Race TLR RS is close enough in Crr, has noticeably more grip even in dry conditions, and it's a more robust tire. The only thing is the tread compound isn't as hard wearing, but that's not something I care deeply about.

For windy road races, Aero 111 + GP5K TT TR
For technical crits, Aero 111 + P Zero Race TLR RS
For rainy days, Aero 111 + P Zero Race TLR RS
For 10mi TTs, GP5K TT TR x2
For long TTs + strong winds, Aero 111 + GP5K TT TR

[spdntrxi]

for me ..

Enve 6.7. Aero111/RaceDay
Cadex50. Aero111/RaceDay
Enve 2.3. RaceDay/RaceDay

[BigBoyND]

So you are mixing Conti Aero111 with Pirelli? No issue running that?

DT themselves are mixing the front and rear. The Pirelli is a better match for the 111 than an S TR because they are more similar in grip.

[mrlobber]

For windy road races, Aero 111 + GP5K TT TR
For technical crits, Aero 111 + P Zero Race TLR RS
For rainy days, Aero 111 + P Zero Race TLR RS
For 10mi TTs, GP5K TT TR x2
For long TTs + strong winds, Aero 111 + GP5K TT TR

Good summary. For specific TTs, the Pro Speeds might be a slightly faster option, but TT TRs are a bet as safe as there currently is.

[cyclespeed]

I agree that the 5000 TT is an excellent choice; hard to justify spending more on what is already a fairly expensive tyre.

I just wish they made it in a 26 or 27mm, because the 28 blows up to at least 30mm on my Extradite 340C wheels which is not good on the front, on the rear, I can live with it. The 25mm is too thin.

The Enve RaceDaySES in 27mm is perfect for the front, but I have had 3 small (sealed) punctures in it.

The 111 in 26 might be a good front choice, but the price pushes credibility for me.......

[usr]

What would the issue be? IMO there are three tires worth running in a mass-start road race or crit: Aero 111, GP5K TT and P Zero Race RS.

The regular GP5K S TR is no longer in the conversation.

It's an interesting take. I mean, almost half of the world tour disagrees with you... I have some miles on the TT and I totally agree with you on using it over the 5000S personally, but I'm also ~60kg and the flat gods have blessed me throughout my life. "no longer in the conversation" seems a bit...ridiculous. It still rolls faster than the Pirelli and has more puncture protection than the TT and the Aero 111. I think it's still a relavent tire.

World Tour teams are sponsored, and the GP5K TT is a great tire so I would happily be sponsored by Continental. Ineos famously didn't have a single flat in the TdF while running the GP5K TT almost exclusively.

Since we're not sponsored, we can mix-n-match whatever tires we want without breaking out the black marker pen. The P Zero Race TLR RS is close enough in Crr, has noticeably more grip even in dry conditions, and it's a more robust tire. The only thing is the tread compound isn't as hard wearing, but that's not something I care deeply about.

For windy road races, Aero 111 + GP5K TT TR
For technical crits, Aero 111 + P Zero Race TLR RS
For rainy days, Aero 111 + P Zero Race TLR RS
For 10mi TTs, GP5K TT TR x2
For long TTs + strong winds, Aero 111 + GP5K TT TR

I read "half of the world tour" as only related to TT vs S TR vs 111, which I suppose should be fine with the sponsor. Continental would probably object to a team suddenly deciding that all the expensive Conti are terrible and compete on some cheap Ultra Sport III, but within the top tier, I'd expect the Continental sponsored teams to have free choice (perhaps with a nudge to whatever or the current latest and supposedly greatest, these days 111)