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Requiem84
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by Requiem84

Where can we find some actual comparison testing for the CRW?

Tomppa
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by Tomppa

Requiem84 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:58 pm
Where can we find some actual comparison testing for the CRW?
China Cycling does a comparison to the Roval Rapide CLX ii's using a Gibli aero sensor.

https://youtu.be/xFaO_Kam_5M?si=6W3YYGLFhiDRvakZ&t=495

PeakTorque also tested with an aero sensor and had them in the same ball park as Winspace Mega's.

https://youtu.be/vZBbUmuU5sI?si=2Pw66dTT-jlfwcOR&t=545

That's about it as far as I know.

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toxin
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by toxin

Nickldn wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:57 pm
Read also this post from Toxin, who says they are the best wheels atm:

viewtopic.php?f=132&t=176957&start=15
I appreciate the respect, but lets not start throwing my word around as if I'm an actual authority. I like to think my opinions are well informed and based in fact, but they're usually based in reading spec sheets, looking at pics and 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. hand information. There's plenty of room for error.

On the topic at hand. Personally, I'm not a big fan of "designed as a system" being touted as an inherent advantage. Let's be real here, bike technology and performance are not that complex at the end of the day.

Yeah I think CRW is one of the best off the shelf packages out there and the best from China. I would attribute that majorly to their courage to innovate and push the limits of carbon spoke tech. I don't remember if we ever found out how much thir individual components weigh, but considering how many others are starting to approach or surpass their spec with not the lightest hubs, their rims don't appear to be that special. I think it's possible to build a set of wheels with individual, off the shelf parts, that would perform better than CRW. That is because they are still the same product as they were on release and better methods of doing things have emerged since. It's just that nobody has put all of it together in a single product yet. If they want to stay on top they'll have to keep developing or they'll go the way of Winspace.
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ChinaCycling
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by ChinaCycling

apr46 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:44 pm
...I was 100% impressed with the CRWs, and I don't question the design decisions around the hub-and-spoke interface...
As an aisde, I think this is actually one of the most underrated features of the CRWs... the spokes being threaded on both ends. No way for them to pop out, etc. Lots of carbon spoke brands (especially using the 'hooked on the flange' approach) have to run very very high spoke tensions because they're afraid of the spokes popping out. No such troubles if threaded on both ends. :mrgreen:

Anyway, my >15 sets of carbon spoke wheels; loads of them are great. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Looking forward to the next big thing, no matter who it's from.

P.S: New product from CRW launching in a few months... but it's not a wheelset. :thumbup:

toxin
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by toxin

Threaded hubs are my favourite thing about the CRWs, and my hope is that it becomes the standard. It's safer and leaves more freedom for spoke and hub design. Once we can build our own carbon spoke wheels by picking and choosing threaded hubs and spokes the way we can now with steel spokes, is when I will consider carbon spokes as fully mature technology.

Nickldn
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by Nickldn

The more robust CRW spoke/hub interface is the reason I felt confident enough to buy wheels with carbon spokes in the first place.

Let's face it, carbon spokes are still very new compared to steel, CRW's is the first implementation I have seen that makes sense (to me) from a safety perspective. I appreciate others' views may vary in this respect, but in my view this is the way the industry has to go.

I was descending Teide yesterday evening, the wheels felt great with 28mm GP5000S TRs, CRW did not focus on achieving the lightest weight makes me more confident in the engineering.

bmrk
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by bmrk

toxin wrote:Threaded hubs are my favourite thing about the CRWs, and my hope is that it becomes the standard. It's safer and leaves more freedom for spoke and hub design. Once we can build our own carbon spoke wheels by picking and choosing threaded hubs and spokes the way we can now with steel spokes, is when I will consider carbon spokes as fully mature technology.
The crw spokes are also threaded in the nipple side?


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ChinaCycling
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by ChinaCycling

bmrk wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:33 pm
The crw spokes are also threaded in the nipple side?
Yes... in the sense that most spokes are threaded into a nipple. The rim side is more traditional in that sense.External nipples.

Aero555
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by Aero555

Is there a direct comparison between CRW 5060 and latest FARSPORTS 2025 New EVO S Series?

mikerthebiker
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by mikerthebiker

Can I run the Aero 111 29mm with Conti STR 30mm on the rear? With IW of 21mm, would the 30mm rear tire be a little too much?

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by bobones

mikerthebiker wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:31 pm
Can I run the Aero 111 29mm with Conti STR 30mm on the rear? With IW of 21mm, would the 30mm rear tire be a little too much?
Rear tyre/rim profile doesn't matter for aero so narrow IW is fine.

toxin
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by toxin

It matters a bit, but not too much. As long as it's not anything extreme it should be fine

mmaslen
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by mmaslen

bobones wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:05 am
mikerthebiker wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:31 pm
Can I run the Aero 111 29mm with Conti STR 30mm on the rear? With IW of 21mm, would the 30mm rear tire be a little too much?
Rear tyre/rim profile doesn't matter for aero so narrow IW is fine.
It does matter for comfort though. As you mentioned, it doesn't affect aero, so why not go wider and have more comfort. More comfort equates to more speed as you can go faster for longer with less aches and pains.

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by Dentaltechbiker

anyone selling a used CRW5060 wheelset by chance? Im getting ready to buy a set from panda podium but figured id try here first

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