Upgrade Roval CLX50 to Alpinist CLX II?

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oceanview
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by oceanview

Is the upgrade from Roval CLX50 to Alpinist CLX II justified?

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cerro
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If you want to save weight yes. The only reason for that change. CLX50 is such an amazing wheel I know after ridden a few others too :)

YH0
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by YH0

I went from CL50 to CL II. The CL50 were really good but I feel the CLii stiffer, especially sprinting. And a bit less comfortable on bumpy roads. I would say it is bit easier to keep high speeds on the clii. Regarding the handling nothing to say. They feel equal to me.

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by spdntrxi

I still think both are poor to less then average performers in crosswinds.
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by FlatlandClimber

Only on weight weenies this is an upgrade. Besides that, the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
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by oceanview

@flatlandclimber what wheels are you running on your Tarmac? Do you think I should consider Enve SES?

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by Johnny Rad

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:15 pm
...the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
CLX2? Which model are you talking about?

Are you saying the shallower CLX32 is faster than the deeper CLX50?

Thx

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by milanv

Johnny Rad wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:46 am
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:15 pm
...the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
CLX2? Which model are you talking about?

Are you saying the shallower CLX32 is faster than the deeper CLX50?

Thx
Shallower wheels faster than deeper wheels? 8)

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by robeambro

Johnny Rad wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:46 am
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:15 pm
...the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
CLX2? Which model are you talking about?

Are you saying the shallower CLX32 is faster than the deeper CLX50?

Thx
They are talking about the Rapide CLX II, ie the second generation.

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by FlatlandClimber

oceanview wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:49 pm
@flatlandclimber what wheels are you running on your Tarmac? Do you think I should consider Enve SES?
If you have no problem with Hookless, those are very good wheels.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

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by spdntrxi

Johnny Rad wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:46 am
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:15 pm
...the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
CLX2? Which model are you talking about?

Are you saying the shallower CLX32 is faster than the deeper CLX50?

Thx
he means CLXII not CLX32..
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by LuigiG

robeambro wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:36 am
Johnny Rad wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:46 am
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:15 pm
...the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
CLX2? Which model are you talking about?

Are you saying the shallower CLX32 is faster than the deeper CLX50?

Thx
They are talking about the Rapide CLX II, ie the second generation.
:-) :-) :-)
The post says ALPINIST CLX II....not RAPIDE CLX II :-)
everything is getting more confused reply after reply :-)

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by spdntrxi

LuigiG wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:56 pm
robeambro wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:36 am
Johnny Rad wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:46 am
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:15 pm
...the Rapide CLX2 is the much faster, and compared to the CLX50 more stable choice.
CLX2? Which model are you talking about?

Are you saying the shallower CLX32 is faster than the deeper CLX50?

Thx
They are talking about the Rapide CLX II, ie the second generation.
:-) :-) :-)
The post says ALPINIST CLX II....not RAPIDE CLX II :-)
everything is getting more confused reply after reply :-)
good point.
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WonderSausage
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by WonderSausage

I suspect OP meant to compare aero wheelsets Rapide CLX 50 & Rapide CL II, not with Alpinist which is a climbing wheelset.

Roval Rapide CLX 50 were 50mm and specced at 1375 bare, measured 1415-1439 with rim tape and valves.

Roval Alpinist CLX II are 33/37mm and specced at 1265g with rim tape and valves.

Roval Rapide CLX II are 51/60mm and specced at 1520g with rim tape and valves.

All of those are hooked TLR rims.

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by wickedstealthy

Has someone info on the Roval Rapids CLXII decals ? Are they removable or are the baked into the rim ?
I hate large decals from an aesthetics point of view.

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