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doubleJ
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by doubleJ

It's the new road bike that Alexey Vermeulen rode to victory and BWR San Diego. I can definitely say that it is not a gravel bike

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Three bikes, monocoque, made in Asia... road, endurance and gravel.. very underwhelmed
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by kode54

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Personally, unless you are constantly riding up 8+% grades, I don’t know why anyone would get the 2.3s. Yes, they are really cool and ultralight. But, they give up so much in aero.
I live at the top of a 12% climb...so after every ride, I have to climb to get home. I've been thinking about a set of 2.3s just for that very reason...because everytime I'm on the way home...i think about it. Oh, the pain after an 80 mi ride!
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spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

kode54 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:45 pm
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Personally, unless you are constantly riding up 8+% grades, I don’t know why anyone would get the 2.3s. Yes, they are really cool and ultralight. But, they give up so much in aero.
I live at the top of a 12% climb...so after every ride, I have to climb to get home. I've been thinking about a set of 2.3s just for that very reason...because everytime I'm on the way home...i think about it. Oh, the pain after an 80 mi ride!
you need a personal bike locker at the bottom.
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

I live at the top of a 15% grade and no way am I buying 2.3s just to be faster for that 5 minutes or so on the way home only to be slower during the rest of the ride. These wheels have basically one purpose, very steep hill climb races or mountaintop finishes.

LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

kode54 wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Personally, unless you are constantly riding up 8+% grades, I don’t know why anyone would get the 2.3s. Yes, they are really cool and ultralight. But, they give up so much in aero.
I live at the top of a 12% climb...so after every ride, I have to climb to get home. I've been thinking about a set of 2.3s just for that very reason...because everytime I'm on the way home...i think about it. Oh, the pain after an 80 mi ride!
This would be a good reason. Lol.


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LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

So are the white streaks just something that Enve owners have to deal with? They are nice wheels, but I’m starting to feel like I’ve been ripped off. And I hate that feeling.

I’m wishing I’d just gone for the Rapide CLX v2.


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tonytourist
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by tonytourist

They've been on every set of Enve wheels I've owned, from my first gen 3.4s to my current set of 4.5 AR, G27, and M635 (just sold these with the bike though).
It's typical Enve quality :noidea:

spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:10 pm
So are the white streaks just something that Enve owners have to deal with? They are nice wheels, but I’m starting to feel like I’ve been ripped off. And I hate that feeling.

I’m wishing I’d just gone for the Rapide CLX v2.


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pretty much every wheel.. My 4.5AR are not bad at all dispite getting them years ago. My 6.7 are new so ok so far. My buddy has 3.4AR that are only 6-7 months old and they look terrible.
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by tmanley

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:16 pm
I live at the top of a 15% grade and no way am I buying 2.3s just to be faster for that 5 minutes or so on the way home only to be slower during the rest of the ride. These wheels have basically one purpose, very steep hill climb races or mountaintop finishes.
Yeah, when I'm rolling on the flats w/ my 2.3's I really wish I was on my 6.7's! I'll spend plenty of time this fall/winter on the 2.3's in the hills doing base miles w/ my compact gearing and 36t rear 8)

LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

tonytourist wrote:They've been on every set of Enve wheels I've owned, from my first gen 3.4s to my current set of 4.5 AR, G27, and M635 (just sold these with the bike though).
It's typical Enve quality :noidea:
I’m trying to figure out if I should try and get my money back. They are fine wheels, but nothing that blew me away or anything. 8/10 which is good, but expected for $2800. But then there were the numerous issues — debris in the wheels, bubbly decals, a huge white streak down the middle now with other white streaks. I feel like I’ve been ripped. Don’t like that feeling.


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LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

Any benefit in looking at Zipp 353s?


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spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:28 pm
Any benefit in looking at Zipp 353s?


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I lighter wallet and lighter bike overall. My buddy has them and they are pretty nice.
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by FlatlandClimber

The ZIPP 353 is not a bad set if wheels by any means. Mine came out around 1300g with tape and valves installed. I find them a little questionable from an aero perspective (25mm internal, 28 external). The 3.4 make more sense for me in this department.
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kode54
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by kode54

spdntrxi wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:06 pm
kode54 wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:45 pm
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Personally, unless you are constantly riding up 8+% grades, I don’t know why anyone would get the 2.3s. Yes, they are really cool and ultralight. But, they give up so much in aero.
I live at the top of a 12% climb...so after every ride, I have to climb to get home. I've been thinking about a set of 2.3s just for that very reason...because everytime I'm on the way home...i think about it. Oh, the pain after an 80 mi ride!
you need a personal bike locker at the bottom.
I do!
- Factor Ostro VAM Disc
- Factor LS Disc
- Specialized Aethos Disc
- Sturdy Ti Allroad Disc
- Guru Praemio R Disc

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