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George46GR
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Good morning, what Farsports wheelset would you suggest for a new 2023 Cervelo S5 ? I intend to use Conti S TR tubeless tyres, 28mm at the rear and 25 mm in the front.
a) Hookless or hooked?
b) RD230 hubs or DT240, Carbon-Ti, etc?
c) 45mm deep, or more?
d) Are the Conti S TR suitable for hookless rims?
e) Are 21 spokes enough for a 82 kg rider and/or for sprinting ?

The Feder ones 45mm deep, hooked, 21 spokes per wheel, come at only 1210 gr that is excellent for a 45mm deep wheeset. Thanks a lot.

P.S. I could not fine tha weight of the 55mm deep (hookless rims)
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George46GR wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:23 am
Good morning, what Farsports wheelset would you suggest for a new 2023 Cervelo S5 ? I intend to use Conti S TR tubeless tyres, 28mm at the rear and 25 mm in the front.
a) Hookless or hooked?
b) RD230 hubs or DT240, Carbon-Ti, etc?
c) 45mm deep, or more?
d) Are the Conti S TR suitable for hookless rims?
e) Are 21 spokes enough for a 82 kg rider and/or for sprinting ?

The Feder ones 45mm deep, hooked, 21 spokes per wheel, come at only 1210 gr that is excellent for a 45mm deep wheeset. Thanks a lot.

P.S. I could not fine tha weight of the 55mm deep (hookless rims)
Before providing suggestions it would be helpful to find out why you feel 45mm deep rims are a suitable match for your S5.

After all the S5 is one of the top aero frames currently available, with the additional weight to match, so low weight can't be your top priority

60mm+ rims seem to be a natural match for an aero frame like the S5 and will help with good aero at 20mph+. Why gimp the it with 45mm deep rims?
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Nickldn wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:54 am
George46GR wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:23 am
Good morning, what Farsports wheelset would you suggest for a new 2023 Cervelo S5 ? I intend to use Conti S TR tubeless tyres, 28mm at the rear and 25 mm in the front.
a) Hookless or hooked?
b) RD230 hubs or DT240, Carbon-Ti, etc?
c) 45mm deep, or more?
d) Are the Conti S TR suitable for hookless rims?
e) Are 21 spokes enough for a 82 kg rider and/or for sprinting ?

The Feder ones 45mm deep, hooked, 21 spokes per wheel, come at only 1210 gr that is excellent for a 45mm deep wheeset. Thanks a lot.

P.S. I could not fine tha weight of the 55mm deep (hookless rims)
Before providing suggestions it would be helpful to find out why you feel 45mm deep rims are a suitable match for your S5.

After all the S5 is one of the top aero frames currently available, with the additional weight to match, so low weight can't be your top priority

60mm+ rims seem to be a natural match for an aero frame like the S5 and will help with good aero at 20mph+. Why gimp the it with 45mm deep rims?
Hi there, the routes in my area are quite hilly. Yet, I very much like the response and stifness of the S5. So, I would like to go deep (as necessary), but at the same time to stay as lights as possible.
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George46GR wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:23 am
Good morning, what Farsports wheelset would you suggest for a new 2023 Cervelo S5 ? I intend to use Conti S TR tubeless tyres, 28mm at the rear and 25 mm in the front.
a) Hookless or hooked?
b) RD230 hubs or DT240, Carbon-Ti, etc?
c) 45mm deep, or more?
d) Are the Conti S TR suitable for hookless rims?
e) Are 21 spokes enough for a 82 kg rider and/or for sprinting ?

The Feder ones 45mm deep, hooked, 21 spokes per wheel, come at only 1210 gr that is excellent for a 45mm deep wheeset. Thanks a lot.

P.S. I could not fine tha weight of the 55mm deep (hookless rims)
a) Depends on pressure. 70psi max for hookless. At your weight you might want hooked.
b) Many happy miles on Carbon Ti. DT Swiss will last longer and handle more abuse. At your weight you might want DT Swiss.
c) 45mm deep, or more? As already stated by others, go deeper - at least 50mm. At your weight you might want 60mm+. The deeper rims mean shorter spokes, better bracing angle = stiffer wheel.
d) Are the Conti S TR suitable for hookless rims? Yes. But 70psi max.
e) Are 21 spokes enough for a 82 kg rider and/or for sprinting ? No, unless the spokes are massively strong and stiff. At your weight you might want 24 spokes on a 60mm wheel and 28 on a 40mm wheel. Think about using all Sapim Sprint if, as you say, you like "response and stiffness".

You getting the theme here? All the decisions toward light weight, while OK, will be a comprimise in performance and/or durability. I am 5kg lighter than you and use Light Bicycle WR50 on Carbon Ti, 24 Sapim CXray (with Conti TR 28mm). This build is just adequately stiff, I would not be happy with anything less stiff. A shallower rim would require more spokes or stiffer spokes to be acceptable to me. FWIW my rims are flyweight version and the total wheelset weight is 1350gm.

Another thing to think about is rim width. If you are planning to use 28mm tires you need a rim that is at least 30 wide. IIRC those Feder rims are 28mm wide. Ideally you wouldn't put anything bigger than 25mm on them. If you are committed to Farsports and 28mm tires, have a look at their 50mm hooked gravel rims. Built on Carbon Ti = 1360 grams.

And more important than any of the technical specs is how it looks :D . I would not put shallow wheels on an S5. IMO 50mm is the minimum and 55 - 65 is the sweet spot. The extra 100 grams will be very much worth it in terms of appearance (not to mention the extra speed). Please post a photo and a ride report here when you are done.
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Dear @Mr Gib : Thanks a lot indeed for your analysis. The minimum I can do, is to leave a real review and some photos when I have the build and some km on the new bike.
Thank you very very much.

Yet, I am still between the new 2023 S5 and the new 2023 Foil ....
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