That is a piece of art !! It deserves a display in the living room... I am drooling from all the perfect choice of details (bar tape, etc...). Awesome
Anyone still have a steel bike?
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MiniMotos, yes.
I had a pair of Gevenalle 9 speed short brake pull I have been wanting to try. I got them new and not used until now. I swapped out the 9 speed index bit for 10s before my CX jaunt yesterday. Had a loose Microshift right shifter form someplace laying around.
Now that I know the bike is a winner for me, I may do 11s on it...
Since we are in steel-gravel mode, my new BBloque. I posted full build and details on the intro section.
It's made out of Columbus XCR stainless tubbing.
I am delighted with the ride; similar to titanium.
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It's made out of Columbus XCR stainless tubbing.
I am delighted with the ride; similar to titanium.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=163768
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What’s going on with the rear mech? Shifting must be pretty vague?
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I'm trying to get my first steel bike so need your opinions on this.
Ritchey Logic (was thinking of getting the disc or the limited edition)
or this Wilier Superleggera ?
https://www.merlincycles.com/wilier-sup ... 98905.html
Thanks
Ritchey Logic (was thinking of getting the disc or the limited edition)
or this Wilier Superleggera ?
https://www.merlincycles.com/wilier-sup ... 98905.html
Thanks
No experience with steel, but that superleggera is stunning and what a price.3phase wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:07 amI'm trying to get my first steel bike so need your opinions on this.
Ritchey Logic (was thinking of getting the disc or the limited edition)
or this Wilier Superleggera ?
https://www.merlincycles.com/wilier-sup ... 98905.html
Thanks
Good price; not sure about the geometry. The streel fork will have implications (not just weight, but also ride).3phase wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:07 amI'm trying to get my first steel bike so need your opinions on this.
Ritchey Logic (was thinking of getting the disc or the limited edition)
or this Wilier Superleggera ?
https://www.merlincycles.com/wilier-sup ... 98905.html
Thanks
I don't think it will ride like a modern steel. In spite of the heavy discount, the price is the same as the Logic, which I think I would rather.
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£1000 for a seamed Cromor tubed frame that is finished in Italy? Hardly a bargain.DHG01 wrote:Good price; not sure about the geometry. The streel fork will have implications (not just weight, but also ride).3phase wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:07 amI'm trying to get my first steel bike so need your opinions on this.
Ritchey Logic (was thinking of getting the disc or the limited edition)
or this Wilier Superleggera ?
https://www.merlincycles.com/wilier-sup ... 98905.html
Thanks
I don't think it will ride like a modern steel. In spite of the heavy discount, the price is the same as the Logic, which I think I would rather.
Just reread the ad. RRP of £2999 is misleading at best, fraudulent at worst. Never worth that ever.
You can buy a better quality modern Italian built steel frame for far less at full retail.
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Sorry, not sure if I am picking up language correctly here. Do you think it is very cheap or not?ultimobici wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 am
£1000 for a seamed Cromor tubed frame that is finished in Italy? Hardly a bargain.
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I don't think cromor tubes are particularly expensive; I love Italy (used to travel twice a month for work), but I would focus on the good quality, which can certainly come from Taiwan, Italy and a few other manufacturers located in different countries.
I don't think a bargain is a heavy discount on something nobody wants (not saying this is necessarily the case), but a great price on something I really want.
Ritchey Logic is probably much cheaper to produce, but I think it rides very nicely, has a balanced geometry and a fork I would rather. It's not as stiff, but almost as much as the more modern steel bikes with higher dimensioned tubes.
The Willier is kind of heavy, with a steel fork, geometry seems demanding (for my preference) and might be a bit wobbly (?).
Just my thoughts; obviously either can be very enjoyable if the buyer knows what he is after.
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To the average customer this looks like a killer deal. It’s not.DHG01 wrote:Sorry, not sure if I am picking up language correctly here. Do you think it is very cheap or not?ultimobici wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 am
£1000 for a seamed Cromor tubed frame that is finished in Italy? Hardly a bargain.
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I don't think cromor tubes are particularly expensive; I love Italy (used to travel twice a month for work), but I would focus on the good quality, which can certainly come from Taiwan, Italy and a few other manufacturers located in different countries.
I don't think a bargain is a heavy discount on something nobody wants (not saying this is necessarily the case), but a great price on something I really want.
Ritchey Logic is probably much cheaper to produce, but I think it rides very nicely, has a balanced geometry and a fork I would rather. It's not as stiff, but almost as much as the more modern steel bikes with higher dimensioned tubes.
The Willier is kind of heavy, with a steel fork, geometry seems demanding (for my preference) and might be a bit wobbly (?).
Just my thoughts; obviously either can be very enjoyable if the buyer knows what he is after.
Merlin are being deliberately misleading in their pitch for this frame. Cromor tubing was more of a budget race or training tubeset that was made by rolling flat sheets into a tube shape and welding them. They typically sold for £2-300 back in the day, so suggesting that the RRP now is £3k is laughable. At the most it should have retailed for the price they are asking.
We sell a couple of classic geometry steel frames that are Italian produced and made from more appropriate tubing. Neither sells for as much as they are claiming this Wilier should sell for.
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Waste of a SR11 groupset.
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