Le club Time
Moderators: maxim809, Moderator Team
Hey Niko,
Its interesting that we both had 785 RS crashed and puchased time. I went with Time Scylon frame with regular fork. My thinking for Scylon was, modern aero bikes are very gimmicky and new Light race bikes are just like Scylon and scylon was designed before UCI updated their new frame rules so the frame is not too crazy Aero.
Luckly for me, the Look Frame was in fixable condition so I sent it for repair I got the look back from CBR 11 weeks later (i think). Now Look 785 RS with Ultegra mechanical is the winter/bad weather frame and Syclon is Dry weather bomber.
Its interesting that we both had 785 RS crashed and puchased time. I went with Time Scylon frame with regular fork. My thinking for Scylon was, modern aero bikes are very gimmicky and new Light race bikes are just like Scylon and scylon was designed before UCI updated their new frame rules so the frame is not too crazy Aero.
Luckly for me, the Look Frame was in fixable condition so I sent it for repair I got the look back from CBR 11 weeks later (i think). Now Look 785 RS with Ultegra mechanical is the winter/bad weather frame and Syclon is Dry weather bomber.
What a coincidence...
I'll have my Look repaired as well (broken seat tube, straight cut where the seatpost ended, the bike did a looping and fell on the saddle). But afraid to hammer down Galibier again with a repaired frame - that gave me the excuse to buy the AdH.
My initial plan was to wait for the Scylon successor and possibly replace my Kuota Kryon but then I really like to ride it.
Means the Look will become the winter bike, Kuota for flat races and the AdH for...well..AdH!
I'll have my Look repaired as well (broken seat tube, straight cut where the seatpost ended, the bike did a looping and fell on the saddle). But afraid to hammer down Galibier again with a repaired frame - that gave me the excuse to buy the AdH.
My initial plan was to wait for the Scylon successor and possibly replace my Kuota Kryon but then I really like to ride it.
Means the Look will become the winter bike, Kuota for flat races and the AdH for...well..AdH!
Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓ Broad Selection ✓ Worldwide Delivery ✓
www.starbike.com
-
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:01 am
Could anyone measure the height (length) of the Time compression plug that is inside the steerer tube? According to the manual, no spacer should be installed above the stem (except for max. 500 km adjustment period), but the plug looks plenty long (longer than the stack height of the stem)
The compression plug is about 70mm long. I currently have 35mm spacers above my 40mm stack stem and it is almost fully covered.
Apart from that, I want to revise my riding experience especially of the fork to avoid false impressions: initially I had pushed the stem down while tightening it. This was not a clever idea as it applies unnecessary force to the HS bearing, leading to the slightly sluggish turning behavior of the fork. When the stem is installed w/o any pressure the bearing runs freely and the steering becomes as expected (still not as nimble as the 785 but that is more related to difference in trail).
I am super happy with the bike and its very refined ride quality .
Apart from that, I want to revise my riding experience especially of the fork to avoid false impressions: initially I had pushed the stem down while tightening it. This was not a clever idea as it applies unnecessary force to the HS bearing, leading to the slightly sluggish turning behavior of the fork. When the stem is installed w/o any pressure the bearing runs freely and the steering becomes as expected (still not as nimble as the 785 but that is more related to difference in trail).
I am super happy with the bike and its very refined ride quality .
-
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:01 am
Thanks, that's a very generous length, also allowing for a relatively big spacer stack under the stem.nikospeed wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:20 pmThe compression plug is about 70mm long. I currently have 35mm spacers above my 40mm stack stem and it is almost fully covered.
Apart from that, I want to revise my riding experience especially of the fork to avoid false impressions: initially I had pushed the stem down while tightening it. This was not a clever idea as it applies unnecessary force to the HS bearing, leading to the slightly sluggish turning behavior of the fork. When the stem is installed w/o any pressure the bearing runs freely and the steering becomes as expected (still not as nimble as the 785 but that is more related to difference in trail).
I am super happy with the bike and its very refined ride quality .
Your comment about the stem is very useful. I would have assumed that you need to push down on the stem due to the independent headset preload system (i.e. to avoid any accidental gaps between stem/spacers and headset top cap).
-
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 pm
This is my ADH 21. I am in Love. I really have to say that this bike feels amazing. Frame stiffness is more than enough (owned a Simplon Nexio before) and I can definitely say that this frame is also comfortable. Have to get rid of 1 or 2 spacers - I am still experimenting.
By the way if anybody needs help with sizig: 179-180 cm tall and ~84 cm inseam and Medium fits perfectly.
It looks quite different in different lighting.
By the way if anybody needs help with sizig: 179-180 cm tall and ~84 cm inseam and Medium fits perfectly.
It looks quite different in different lighting.
- MrCurrieinahurry
- Moderator
- Posts: 4825
- Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:01 pm
- Location: London
Gorgeous look forward to when you have it dialled in
Sent from my M2101K6G using Tapatalk
Sent from my M2101K6G using Tapatalk
Formerly known as Curryinahurry
-
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 pm
-
- Posts: 22
- Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:53 am
I'm close to pull the trigger for a Alpe d'Huez 21 rim brake frame and have 2 questions:
1. I'm 1,85m and coming from a Focus Izalco Max Disc (the non aero) in 54cm. Regarding the reach it suits me perfect with 100mm stem. BUT the stack is too low for my taste and results in a bit twitchy behavior when descending. That's why I run a Specialized Aerofly riser bar and some spacers. So I'm considering size L for the Alpe d'Huze which has only a 2mm longer reach than the Izalco, but a lot higher stack. The Alpe d'Huez would be lot shorter by 7mm in reach and also the wheelbase. Do you think size L would be the right decision?
2. I'm considerating the rim brake frame because it should be a budget, less maitainance and timelesse build. And later I'm considerating to add the new ADHX to the stable. So for the rim brake frame: Do you have enough clearance for 28c tires?
Thanks for your tipps!
1. I'm 1,85m and coming from a Focus Izalco Max Disc (the non aero) in 54cm. Regarding the reach it suits me perfect with 100mm stem. BUT the stack is too low for my taste and results in a bit twitchy behavior when descending. That's why I run a Specialized Aerofly riser bar and some spacers. So I'm considering size L for the Alpe d'Huze which has only a 2mm longer reach than the Izalco, but a lot higher stack. The Alpe d'Huez would be lot shorter by 7mm in reach and also the wheelbase. Do you think size L would be the right decision?
2. I'm considerating the rim brake frame because it should be a budget, less maitainance and timelesse build. And later I'm considerating to add the new ADHX to the stable. So for the rim brake frame: Do you have enough clearance for 28c tires?
Thanks for your tipps!
-
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 pm
Think you could ride both M and L, but at 1,85m (inseam maybe around 86cm?) I would recommend size Large, maybe with a little bit shorter stem if necessary.
Depending on the amount of spacers you currently have under your stem on your Izalco, you increased the stack but also shortened the effective reach of that bike. If you do not put spacers under your stem on the ADH21 (the stack is 37mm higher than on the focus), the bike will feel definitely longer than your current setup.
I am 179-180cm with 85cm inseam and ridea Medium ADH21 (90mm stem, got short arms...) which fits perfectly in my opinion.
Regarding the rim brakes: My ADH21 also has rim brakes - they are lighter, cheaper, more "aero" (if you are into that), they look much cleaner/timeless and brake perfectly fine in dry conditions. But I would have chosen disc brakes if I was riding in wet conditions.
The Micheliun Power Cup 25mm (wrong tires for my 21mm ID whees by the way...) I got on that bike are over 29mm wide (measured) and there is no problem with frame clearence. I would not want to exceed 30-31mm (measured) since there is alsways the chance that the tire picks up small stuff from the ground that could possibly hit the frame.
cheers
Depending on the amount of spacers you currently have under your stem on your Izalco, you increased the stack but also shortened the effective reach of that bike. If you do not put spacers under your stem on the ADH21 (the stack is 37mm higher than on the focus), the bike will feel definitely longer than your current setup.
I am 179-180cm with 85cm inseam and ridea Medium ADH21 (90mm stem, got short arms...) which fits perfectly in my opinion.
Regarding the rim brakes: My ADH21 also has rim brakes - they are lighter, cheaper, more "aero" (if you are into that), they look much cleaner/timeless and brake perfectly fine in dry conditions. But I would have chosen disc brakes if I was riding in wet conditions.
The Micheliun Power Cup 25mm (wrong tires for my 21mm ID whees by the way...) I got on that bike are over 29mm wide (measured) and there is no problem with frame clearence. I would not want to exceed 30-31mm (measured) since there is alsways the chance that the tire picks up small stuff from the ground that could possibly hit the frame.
cheers
Quickset has the threaded aluminium sleeve bonded to the fork steerer tube; you then drop / tighthen down the proprietary headset cover (also threaded) into that sleeve inside the head tube, essentially holding the fork in place and you can easily adjust the preload by turning it.OneBeerPlease wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:38 amDoes anyone know how that aluminum piece on the steerer is actually hold in it's place? Just curious about the design. I like to be able to change the cockpit without worrying about the headset at all.
By the way the headset on my frame was WAY too tight from factory.
Some people hate it, I personally love it. It's convinient and neat, and it also eliminates the need for an expansion plug and the top cap here is simply a metal sleeve that slides into the steerer tube without a screw fixing. All these help further reduce stress in the stem clamping area.
Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓ Broad Selection ✓ Worldwide Delivery ✓
www.starbike.com