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- maverick_1
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Received a PM from a fellow member on the differences comparing TIME ZXRS Vs Scylon (with Activ fork)
I guess it would be better to share it here with fellow TIME owners.
The most apparent difference is the rear end, with the Scylon being stiffer.
Most of us won’t be able to discern this unless you’ve sprinted hard on the ZXRS and ride both bikes back to back.
On the ZXRS it seems there’s a saturation point where the speed incremental stops (my personal feeling). You will not have such sensation when sprinting on Scylon, it just goes IMHO. The difference may or may not have any impact depending on how or with whom you ride your bike with. However if you're the guy who loves sprinting or doing spirited rides, my suggestion is to go for the Scylon. Personally the ZXRS is more towards a Grand Tourer.
Activ fork works great on the Scylon but the ZXRS front end stability and stiffness is excellent as well. Comparing comfort levels to a Colnago C60, huge difference can be felt on the Scylon, with the Scylon winning by a huge margin.
To conclude, the ZXRS front end is great and stiffness is up there with the Scylon. Marginal difference and never lacked of it.
No apparent build quality difference comparing both frames, each is nothing short of excellent (TIME’s hallmark!)
Hope the above answers your question.
Cheers
I guess it would be better to share it here with fellow TIME owners.
The most apparent difference is the rear end, with the Scylon being stiffer.
Most of us won’t be able to discern this unless you’ve sprinted hard on the ZXRS and ride both bikes back to back.
On the ZXRS it seems there’s a saturation point where the speed incremental stops (my personal feeling). You will not have such sensation when sprinting on Scylon, it just goes IMHO. The difference may or may not have any impact depending on how or with whom you ride your bike with. However if you're the guy who loves sprinting or doing spirited rides, my suggestion is to go for the Scylon. Personally the ZXRS is more towards a Grand Tourer.
Activ fork works great on the Scylon but the ZXRS front end stability and stiffness is excellent as well. Comparing comfort levels to a Colnago C60, huge difference can be felt on the Scylon, with the Scylon winning by a huge margin.
To conclude, the ZXRS front end is great and stiffness is up there with the Scylon. Marginal difference and never lacked of it.
No apparent build quality difference comparing both frames, each is nothing short of excellent (TIME’s hallmark!)
Hope the above answers your question.
Cheers
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- miltmaster3
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I want your corima wheelsLlanberis wrote:Looks lovely Kumppa! French Edition and Ulteam colourway are my favourites on Ad'H. How do you find the shifting by the way? I had a similar blend of set-up before (eTap + DZero), no complain and have been quite happy with it. Recently swapped the groupset with EPS and I must say the shifting performance is a huge leap forward. (Only a bit sad that I have to give up Time pedals for other PM pedals as it's my only bike and I need numbers for trainning.)
Ad'H army is dominating, where are fellow Skylon / Scylon owners?
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Great info here, and great pictures!
Any input/thoughts or experiences with the Alpe D’Huez vs. Fluidity models and the Aktiv fork? I found a Fluidity Aktiv in my size, but the more I read about them, the Alpe seems to be more for the riding I like to do, even though I no longer race.
Any input/thoughts or experiences with the Alpe D’Huez vs. Fluidity models and the Aktiv fork? I found a Fluidity Aktiv in my size, but the more I read about them, the Alpe seems to be more for the riding I like to do, even though I no longer race.
@miltmaster3 - Thanks man, they do offer some nice rides but the weight sits a bit on the heavy end – 47 mm clincher at almost 1600 g!
@22000m2 - I've not ridden either but if you raced before, Ad'H's geometry might be more of your thing? (01 and 21 models have different fibre blends and therefore some stifness difference.) My experience with AKTIV fork's effect have been great so far, but it is certainly not something I can't live without. (Some chaps did mention they've had some reliability issues with theirs, the posts are either few pages back in this thread or in another Time bicycle one.)
@22000m2 - I've not ridden either but if you raced before, Ad'H's geometry might be more of your thing? (01 and 21 models have different fibre blends and therefore some stifness difference.) My experience with AKTIV fork's effect have been great so far, but it is certainly not something I can't live without. (Some chaps did mention they've had some reliability issues with theirs, the posts are either few pages back in this thread or in another Time bicycle one.)
Thanks for the heads up on the fork. Neat engineering, but sounds like maybe not worth the trouble if there are issues. Fork could also be swapped out for a regular one if needed though, I suppose.Llanberis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:47 pm@miltmaster3 - Thanks man, they do offer some nice rides but the weight sits a bit on the heavy end – 47 mm clincher at almost 1600 g!
@22000m2 - I've not ridden either but if you raced before, Ad'H's geometry might be more of your thing? My experience with AKTIV fork's effect have been great so far, but it is certainly not something I can't live without. (Some chaps did mention they've had some reliability issues with theirs, the posts are either few pages back in this thread or in another Time bicycle one.)
Hi All, found this press release which indicates new colour ways should be coming
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/announc ... ONohOQmLDs
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https://www.bicycleretailer.com/announc ... ONohOQmLDs
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FYI - conductor do marketing for brands like Canyon, Koo eyewear and Rouleur magazine, seem like a good fit for Time BicyclesJrtyoung wrote:Hi All, found this press release which indicates new colour ways should be coming
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/announc ... ONohOQmLDs
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https://conductorstudio.com/projects/
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Thanks for sharing this Jrtyoung! The work they did for Canyon is really solid; glad to see Cardinal is pouring resources into reshaping the brand. Really looking forward to the outcome. Also they really kept a tight lip about the new model, no rumours at all! Do you guys reckon it would be an aero-at-all-cost frame, or something allround like other brand's recent releases?
Time have recently brought Andy Clark on board as an ambassador for the brand - apparently he’s already requested that a new model have clearance for 30c tyres (apparently the ADH maxes out at 28).Llanberis wrote:Thanks for sharing this Jrtyoung! The work they did for Canyon is really solid; glad to see Cardinal is pouring resources into reshaping the brand. Really looking forward to the outcome. Also they really kept a tight lip about the new model, no rumours at all! Do you guys reckon it would be an aero-at-all-cost frame, or something allround like other brand's recent releases?
Looking at the majority of bikes released in 2021, a lot of brands seem to have consolidated their aero and climbing bikes - and since Time appear to have a 5yr model lifecycle, anything they release will need to be on trend not just for what is hitting the market now, but emerging trends for future years. Also it will need to drop some weight cause bikes appear to be getting crazy light these days.
My guess:
1. Fresh colours for the 2022 models
2. New Ergodrive bars and monoblock stem that can integrate cables up front.
3. Slight changes to the ADH mould to accomodate integrated cables and increase tyre clearance for 30c
4. Activ forks remain as option, but not a selling feature (to compete on weight)
https://youtu.be/etriIqll7Bc
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