Calnago wrote:Sliced bread was way better.
But, since you took the time to post,
1) you will always get different opinions
2) If a topic always gets different opinions, then that means implies there's no real clear answer, and that means you need to look within yourself for what you feel is right. Many people don't. So take all the opinions, including what you get here, and make up your own mind.
3) You live in Florida, flat and lots of wind. How windy, really? And how much do you value how your bike looks. The 40-50mm carbon hoops do look pretty cool on most bikes, but there are bikes where a low profile classic wheel looks just as good, and rides better in my opinion. What bike are these going on?
4) All of the options you mention are fine choices and I doubt you will go wrong with any of them. If I thought you were way off base on any of those choices I'd say so. If you had a lot of big gnarly descents I might suggest rethinking the carbon clincher thing. But it's flat in Florida, so don't worry about it. Have fun deciding.
However, at the end of the day, sliced bread will still be way ahead of aero bicycle wheels in the history of great achievements.
1 and 2. I agree but wanted to get more real world experience rather than from just a few of my friends.
3. Some days are a good 15 knot wind (I am near the coast). I value looks but put more value in performance. They will be going on a Colnago Extreme Power with Campy Daytona.
4. Gee thanks. I have been going back and forth for about 6 months now and cannot seem to commit. I figured this would be the deciding vote.
At least I am on the right track. Thanks.
If somebody rides mostly hills - get low profile and a few more spokes
If you ride flatter roads - aim for more aero
If you ride a mix get lighter weight medium profile.
Would be interesting to know what depth rims the custom builders tend to build the most of from say the ENVE range, or what the mix of sales is from ZIPP
Last October I bought a new Colnago EPQ frameset and used parts I already had for the build so it’s a bit hodgepodged - Calnago and others have builds that would put mine to shame but I'm a fatty so having the latest and greatest wouldn't have made me any faster! The build turned out to be greater than the sum of the parts and it's a fantastic bike that I'm very happy with.
Now on to the rim question. Initially I used a set of Fulcrum 5’s that were adequate but nothing special. They were the rims that were on my previous bike and I wanted to use the same: rim/tire/air pressure for comparison. I then put on a set of handbuilts (which I'm currently riding) that are 36 spoke Campy Moskva 80s laced 3x with a 10 speed 12 – 25 cassette on 7900 Dura Ace hubs and DT Spokes. The handbuilts are noticeably better than the Fulcrum 5’s. However, the brake track isn’t that good and the rim has some damage and I’d like to replace them. I want to go to a 11 speed cassette and the 7900 DA’s are spaced for 10.
My current weight is 190 pounds and I’ve been dropping weight (albeit slowly) steadily with the final goal of 175. Based on my riding style and the area I live I’m interested in stiff, light and strong (yes I know this won’t be cheep!) vs. aero. I run Shimano and have heard that Fulcrum will be going to a wider rim bed at some point in 2014. A wide rim Fulcrum 1 or Zero’s would fit the bill but I’m curious if a set of handbuilts would be as stiff and light – I know they would be as strong if not stronger.
Thanks for the input and safe riding.
I can't tell you if a hand built set would beat it on strength/weight... but you could easily beat it in one or the other... along with price and aero... and blow it away for serviceability and repairability.
Pacenti SL23 rims (900g)
CX-Ray spokes (24/28) (235g)
Aluminum nipples (20g)
Tune Hubs (245g)
total 1400g according to Fairwheel Bikes weights listed.
This would be a nice set and should be pretty light for stiff clinchers.
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