Hubs are really nice done and 5 bearings in rear run really smooth - front also
KLabs wrote:Hi Bostonbull, no, but the Pacenti SL23, H+Son Archetype, Kinlin XR-270, Kinlin XC-279, Stans 340, Velocity A23, Hed Belgium C2 are often mentioned on this forum, including FLO30 rims.
Any rim with a depth of >= 25mm, or Off Centre Rim (OCR), will work with the DT240 hubs (28/32) and produce a good road wheelset.
The thoughts by Jason/Fairwheel and Eric Gottesman/Ergott wheels are quite good and helpful, don't you think so ...
Eric's Kinlin XR270 and Stans 340s are good suggestions as are Pacenti SL23, H+Son Archetype, and Kinlin XC-279 ... it's good to have choices especially when the choices are all good
What are some hub options, lacing patterns, and spokes should I be after for this build?
The hub kavitator has just posted, Bartime, looks very interesting
Going from that review I would lean toward an Elf in front and either a CKR45 (wish it were as loud as the Classic or MTB CK hubs) or WI H3 (loud?) out back.
Should I be looking at others that maybe weren't in that review but are readily available from places such as FairWheel or ProWheelBuilder?
The H+Son ArchType really caught my eye from that review site as well.
What about spokes, and acing patterns?
Spokes available are Sapim, Pillar, DT Swiss, MAC, and a few others ...
Conventional lacing choices for the rear wheel, depending on hub/rim/rider weight, are 2xNDS/DS, 3xNDS/DS, or 2xNDS 3xDS, or even 2xNDS 4xDS.
If you are less than 70kgs then 1x and 0x can be considered but they are not as durable
There are quite a variety non-conventional rear wheel arrangements but the 16-8 arrangement is the most popular
Conventional lacing choices for the front wheel, depending on hub/rim/rider weight, are 0x, 1x, 2x, or even 3x
I am 190lbs if that helps.
Looking for a wheelset to do it all and be trouble free in terms of not having to be trued every month.
I have had the fewest spoke breakages with Sapim spokes, so that's what I build wheels with. But I'm just one guy who has gone through a lot of wheels, so my experience with other spokes may be affected by wheel build quality.
Which leads me to the last point, that the durability of wheels is affected quite a bit by the skill of the person building them. So far I have built some decent wheels and some not so good wheels, but I am learning.
The wheels that Prowheelbuilder did for me have not needed truing, but they are race wheels so I don't ride them every day.
Concerning the rims, I think the Archetype is a decent option. I think the SL23 from Pacenti is a superior option though.
I have read the ORC is great hub, but suffers from durability issues? Any truth to this, or are certain people looking to grind an axe?
The only real downside (of the old ORC at least) is that the preload is a bit more finicky than a White or King. Other than that, I think it is a superior hub.
kavitator wrote:some new hubs - what do you think about geometry?
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How are you supposed to put spoke into the left flange without bending them a lot to pass over the right flange? You should probably have either straight pull spokes there or they must be laced radial, heads in.
What are the center to flange dimensions?
Hub is adjustable for 10 or 11 speed shimano. Remove left side of hub and insert spokes - tricky but it is price for that kind of geometry
rear powerflange hub
L/R flange to center: 35/18mm
L/R PCD: 37/90mm
Flange to center: 40,5mm
Bostonbull wrote:What are your thoughts on the WI H2/H3 being too extreme in its angle to get great tension? Anything to watch out for here? I can envision saving some serious $ and doing WI wheel set on SL23's. Otherwise its CKR45's and a lighter pocket book.
For the price of Chris King, get Alchemy UL. If you go with T11 hubs, up the rear spoke count 4 and lace them cross on the drive side and radial heads out on the NDS. Use a heavier gauge spoke on the drive side as well. That's how I've been building that rim/hub combo.
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