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LouisN
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by LouisN

MrCurrieinahurry wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm
I miss @legs11
:mrgreen:
This thread used to be « livelier »...
Louis :)

robertbb
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by robertbb

Marin wrote:
Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:14 pm
Gravel89 wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:58 pm
Are the new 240exp? I was looking for something not really noisy
Yes the new ones. Loudest hubs around :(
Another reason to stick with 350's :)

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Gravel89
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by Gravel89

Do you any of you use the Miche R-DX Hub or the Damil Hub? My LBS advised me for this Italian brand. Because of Brexit the good UK products are now on the EU market really expensive :-(

Aesch
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by Aesch

I've been happy riding wheels so far with cx Ray and building them myself with pillar 1420 spokes. This was a choice based on availability and price. These are light and thin spokes and I'm contemplating building a gravel wheelset that might benefit from a slightly heavier spoke. However I have no idea what would be a good choice. A pillar 1422? Or a pillar wing variant? Or maybe a dt swiss aero comp? Any ideas or advice? Thanks!

DieselCondor
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by DieselCondor

I wouldnt bother too much with the aero variety for an off road build. Sapim Race or the lighter D-Light spokes are very cost effective and work great for off road builds.

iankovski
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by iankovski

Hello, guys.
So I'm buying a second hand bike and it comes with a pair of Corima WS 47 Black. Since I'm a bit heavy, about 86kg right now, and this is a wheelset not much indicated to daily training, since it's expensive at least to me, I want to ask you a couple of questions: 1) do the wheel can bear my heavyweight as*? 2) is it a good idea to buy a spare wheelset for the daily basis? 3) which fair and nice wheelset is recommended for 80kg+? 4) as I want to try the tubeless magic, better to have it in carbon/aluminum?

fabriciom
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by fabriciom

I've been gone for a while and now I cant find nice hubs for rim brake.

What do you guys recommed for a campagnolo setup.

Thanks.

timeout93
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by timeout93

Hello there,

could someone double check my (Sapim`s) calculation?

Rim: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000543987953.html
ERD 588
28 Holes

Hubs: Acros Nineteen XC: https://acros-components.com/en/product ... -hub?c=246clas
Rear straightpull (3x)
Front straightpull (3x and radial)
everything else: https://acros-components.com/media/pdf/ ... ben_DE.pdf

Sapims says:
Front: 291 / 280
Rear: 292 / 269

Attached you can see the inputs I made. I don´t know the inner diameter of the rim or the thickness of it, I just put numbers in so the ERD of 588 fits.

Thanks very much in advance!
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Front 1
Front 1
Front 2
Front 2
Rear 1
Rear 1
Rear 2
Rear 2

Yoln
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by Yoln

Building a wheelset with carbon Ti SP rim brakes hub. 28H for the rear with 3x lacing on drive side and radial on left side. Usind CX sprint. What tension would you recommend (and especially how different should it be between drive and non drive side?) ?

Thanks
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Wilier “Cento Ramato“ : https://tinyurl.com/29vs8vre
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Marin
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by Marin

Yoln wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 12:37 am
Building a wheelset with carbon Ti SP rim brakes hub. 28H for the rear with 3x lacing on drive side and radial on left side. Usind CX sprint. What tension would you recommend (and especially how different should it be between drive and non drive side?) ?

Thanks
Tension right side as high as your components allow. Left side tension is determined by geometry.

Yoln
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by Yoln

Marin wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 9:12 am
Yoln wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 12:37 am
Building a wheelset with carbon Ti SP rim brakes hub. 28H for the rear with 3x lacing on drive side and radial on left side. Usind CX sprint. What tension would you recommend (and especially how different should it be between drive and non drive side?) ?

Thanks
Tension right side as high as your components allow. Left side tension is determined by geometry.
Thanks! Makes total sense
Litespeed Gravel Ultimate : https://tinyurl.com/zvxxy8zk
Wilier “Cento Ramato“ : https://tinyurl.com/29vs8vre
#RETIRED# Lynskey “the Do-it-all Helix” 🧬:https://tinyurl.com/bdmb5y24

alanyu
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by alanyu

Yoln wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 12:37 am
Building a wheelset with carbon Ti SP rim brakes hub. 28H for the rear with 3x lacing on drive side and radial on left side. Usind CX sprint. What tension would you recommend (and especially how different should it be between drive and non drive side?) ?

Thanks
With 28 spokes do you really need CX sprint?

USAisDOA
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by USAisDOA

LouisN wrote:
Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:37 pm
MrCurrieinahurry wrote:
Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm
I miss @legs11
:mrgreen:
This thread used to be « livelier »...
Louis :)
So what happened to the English chap with the bike shop? He used to respond almost to everything. He never read what he typed hence so typo's. Good dude... I forgot his handle. I used to really enjoy reading some of his exasperated responses to some of my off the wall post ideas, most of which worked for me. Einstein of all people stated that you never learned a damn thing if you don't make some mistakes.

So if you're out there Englishmen.. I built a gravel bike aluminum frame last fall mostly to play with discs. And I built triplet on both ends 16 8 front and back. Radial rear left----eight "stoppers", works just fine 😆 enjoy this one englishman.

:smartass: Gosh.... I live so dangerously :twisted:
I believe almost nothing I read and 'hear'

I believe roughly half of what I see with my own eyes.. in person.

I do not carbon.. anything


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mashiehood
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by mashiehood

Hi does anyone have detailed dimensions for the Enve Road disc hubs - I need to calculate apple lengths for a build but can find anything on the intwrweb

shimmeD
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by shimmeD

So what happened to the English chap with the bike shop? He used to respond almost to everything. He never read what he typed hence so typo's. Good dude... I forgot his handle. I used to really enjoy reading some of his exasperated responses to some of my off the wall post ideas, most of which worked for me. Einstein of all people stated that you never learned a damn thing if you don't make some mistakes.

So if you're out there Englishmen.. I built a gravel bike aluminum frame last fall mostly to play with discs. And I built triplet on both ends 16 8 front and back. Radial rear left----eight "stoppers", works just fine 😆 enjoy this one englishman.

That was bm0p700f who hangs out at thecycleclinic.uk I think he got sick of coming here, shame that since I enjoy(ed) his posts. :beerchug: to Malcolm.
And yes you're right Malcolm doesn't like weird wheel builds like yours!
Less is more.

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