Which Tubeless Tape

[Roadbiker10]

Does anyone know if this is tubeless tape on this rim which came with my bike? 043B9EE8-9B58-4970-B14D-86BBC93AB4B2.jpegIt seems more like some kind of plastic.

No, it's not tubeless tape.!

Ok, thanks. I was hoping it was.

I'm looking at replacing these wheels anyway since they are only 19mm internal on a gravel bike, and I'm looking at a pair of Mavic Allroads right now.

Does anyone have any experience with their system? As I understand, the internal space is solid and you don't need any tape. Are there any cons to that compared with regular wheels? I mean only from the running tubeless perspective, ease of use.

[dgdracing]

Tesa is used by two wheelbuilders I know, so it seems a very good product with a good price

[manystyles]

I have nothing but praise for whatever tape that came typically with DT Swiss (The black ones with "TUBELESS READY" and DT SWISS written all over it) I've had over 10 tubeless tires per wheel on my MTB over the years. The time it failed was that it somehow became too thin (over 3-4 years time) and started leaking at one of the spoke holes.

They are basically made by another company (forgot the name) and you can get it cheaper if you grab it from them instead.

Did you ever get around finding out who makes the tape? TIA!


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[TobinHatesYou]

Tesa is used by two wheelbuilders I know, so it seems a very good product with a good price

Two layers of Tesa 4289 is pretty thick and makes for difficult mounting with some rim+tire combos. The green powder coat masking tape (3M 8992 or generic, doesn't matter) has the best combination of elongation/stretch, strength, thinness and adhesion.

[dgdracing]

Can you use 3M with 1 layer for road or do you also need 2 layers? I am a bit skeptical in general to use tape which is not officially made for tubeless. Last time I have used MucOff, but on their manual and video they never state that you should use 2 layers for road usage. I found this very important info only on GCN. Stan's no tube tape can hold only up to 3-4 bar with 1 layer, we tried this unfortunately (shop did not know better).

[LeDuke]

Tesa is used by two wheelbuilders I know, so it seems a very good product with a good price

Two layers of Tesa 4289 is pretty thick and makes for difficult mounting with some rim+tire combos. The green powder coat masking tape (3M 8992 or generic, doesn't matter) has the best combination of elongation/stretch, strength, thinness and adhesion.

I’ve used all sorts of tape over the years on MTB and gravel wheels and 8992 is the best by a good stretch.

I add a drop of super glue at the end so it doesn’t peel up, but otherwise, just use a single layer of 8992.


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[TobinHatesYou]

I add a drop of super glue at the end so it doesn’t peel up, but otherwise, just use a single layer of 8992.

Yeah a single layer of 8992 should be sufficient, but I like the peace of mind of having the second layer. I'm actually using the blue 8991 tape roll that I bought. It's a bit thinner, even stretchier and definitely sticking to 2 layers of that. Whether I'd recommend 8991 or 8992, I'd probably still say 8992.

[ooo]

What you think of 3M 8995/8996? on paper, they look similar to 3M 3991/3992 (closer to 3991).
3M 8996 is not listed in first table (thickness 0,085; peel strength 8.5; tensile strength 180; elongation 85%)

it looks like 8991/8992 may not be available in some regions, where 8995/8996 is available

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1989981O/11-productselectionguide-masking-en.pdf

[MrB123]

Any reason not to use these tapes if I'm planning to run carbon clinchers with inner tubes? Just wondering if there's any reason to go for traditional non-tubeless tape such as the old style cloth tapes or whether they'll all do the job equally well.

[TobinHatesYou]

Any reason not to use these tapes if I'm planning to run carbon clinchers with inner tubes? Just wondering if there's any reason to go for traditional non-tubeless tape such as the old style cloth tapes or whether they'll all do the job equally well.

3M 8992 is going to be significantly lower weight, and likely lower Crr than cloth tape.

[edchristoph]

Tesa 50600 green polyester silicone masking tape
https://www.tesa.com/en-gb/industry/tes ... ndard.html
This is essentially the same a 3M 8992 but available in more granular width steps than 3M, at least here in Europe.

In general I found the green polyester based masking tape with silicone adhesive is offering better stretch and adhesion than the yellow polypropylene based tape with natural rubber adhesive like Tesa 4289, Stans Notubes etc.

It's quite cheap as well. I paid 7,50 EUR for a 66m tape roll.

[CampagYOLO]

Any reason not to use these tapes if I'm planning to run carbon clinchers with inner tubes? Just wondering if there's any reason to go for traditional non-tubeless tape such as the old style cloth tapes or whether they'll all do the job equally well.

Latex tubes specifically need tubeless tape on the rim according to the packaging.

[bobones]

I'm a big fan of the black Tesa 4288. I'd put it on a par with green power coat masking tape, but prefer its uniform colour on the rim.

[MrB123]

Any reason not to use these tapes if I'm planning to run carbon clinchers with inner tubes? Just wondering if there's any reason to go for traditional non-tubeless tape such as the old style cloth tapes or whether they'll all do the job equally well.

Latex tubes specifically need tubeless tape on the rim according to the packaging.

Will be butyl tubes.

[Aeo]

Another option is Kapton / polyimide tape.
tesa 51407 and 51408
3M 5413 and 5419