Do You Run Tubeless AND Carry a Spare Tube?
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Always carry a tube (I'm just used to it). That said, never ever had a puncture on a tubeless tyre (so far).
Interestingly, I added a bit of sealant to my inner tubes, running GP5000 28mm non TLR tyres (650b) - they were so puncture prone and useless. Never ever had so many punctures on a set of tyres. Peculiar to the size perhaps?
Anyway, I'm SO sold on tubeless sealant that I'd add it to anything (well... apart from muesli).
Interestingly, I added a bit of sealant to my inner tubes, running GP5000 28mm non TLR tyres (650b) - they were so puncture prone and useless. Never ever had so many punctures on a set of tyres. Peculiar to the size perhaps?
Anyway, I'm SO sold on tubeless sealant that I'd add it to anything (well... apart from muesli).
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After switching to tubeless over a year ago I got my first puncture last week. Before tubeless I'd get 4-5 flats a year.
I don't carry a spare tube but needed one this time.
I've mostly been running LB AR56 wheels and GP5000 TLRs but in this instance I was running Prime 50mm wheels and Schwalbe Pro Ones.
By the time I pulled over I'd lost most of my air. It was clear where the puncture was as I could see sealant leaking out. I put one dynaplug in and used my one CO2. Didn't seal enough.
Put another dynaplug next to the first and used a mate's CO2. Didn't seal.
I could have tried the "fat" dynaplug but instead got a tube from another rider. Was able to get the tire back on with just my hands. Used CO2 #3.
Five and ten miles later used CO2 #4 and #5. When installing the tube I didn't first check the tire for what caused the original puncture. So I had a tiny slow leak.
Lessons learned.
When I'm riding the Prime/ProOne combo and going on a long ride I'll now take an inner tube, extra CO2 and a pump.
If I see it's a pretty big cut (mine was about 0.5 - 0.75 cm) I should use the big/fat dynaplug.
When I ride the AR56 / GP5000 combo (which won't fit a tube or will be a monster to remount the tire), maybe take one more CO2 or a pump.
I don't carry a spare tube but needed one this time.
I've mostly been running LB AR56 wheels and GP5000 TLRs but in this instance I was running Prime 50mm wheels and Schwalbe Pro Ones.
By the time I pulled over I'd lost most of my air. It was clear where the puncture was as I could see sealant leaking out. I put one dynaplug in and used my one CO2. Didn't seal enough.
Put another dynaplug next to the first and used a mate's CO2. Didn't seal.
I could have tried the "fat" dynaplug but instead got a tube from another rider. Was able to get the tire back on with just my hands. Used CO2 #3.
Five and ten miles later used CO2 #4 and #5. When installing the tube I didn't first check the tire for what caused the original puncture. So I had a tiny slow leak.
Lessons learned.
When I'm riding the Prime/ProOne combo and going on a long ride I'll now take an inner tube, extra CO2 and a pump.
If I see it's a pretty big cut (mine was about 0.5 - 0.75 cm) I should use the big/fat dynaplug.
When I ride the AR56 / GP5000 combo (which won't fit a tube or will be a monster to remount the tire), maybe take one more CO2 or a pump.
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2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
I run tubeless and carry a spare tube, but was thinking about buying a plug.
Most post in this thread mention Dynaplug. Are those generally considered the best plugs for road tires (I run GP5000 28mm on WR38 rims)? Any other plug recommendations?
Most post in this thread mention Dynaplug. Are those generally considered the best plugs for road tires (I run GP5000 28mm on WR38 rims)? Any other plug recommendations?
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2018 Fuji Transonic 2.5 rim (6.90kg)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
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Search the forums here for dynaplug. The consensus seems to be while very expensive they often work when bacon does not. And they are very quick to deploy and use.
2018 Fuji Transonic 2.5 rim (6.90kg)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
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You'd probably not have the same problem with Dynaplugs. The metal tip is not likely to pull out, etc.
2018 Fuji Transonic 2.5 rim (6.90kg)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
2020 ICAN AC-388 cyclocross bike (8.41kg)
2021 Trek Emonda SLR RSL H1 rim (5.65kg)
1980s vintage ALAN Super Record (haven't weighed it)
Maybe, but I've read that the metal tip falls off and rattles around in the tire. The GI plug pushed out about 3/8", then seems to stabilize. Probably not a problem.
Thanks for confirming; I did search the forums but couldn't seperate the wheat from the chaff.choochoo46 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:03 amSearch the forums here for dynaplug. The consensus seems to be while very expensive they often work when bacon does not. And they are very quick to deploy and use.
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It's been my experience that CO2 doesn't keep tire pressure up very long, especially in hot weather. For this reason, I've opted to carry a micro pump instead of CO2. Sure, micro-pumps are not the most fun to use, but they only stop pumping air when your arm falls offchoochoo46 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:04 amFive and ten miles later used CO2 #4 and #5. When installing the tube I didn't first check the tire for what caused the original puncture. So I had a tiny slow leak.
The slow leak rate of CO2 should allow you to complete the ride with negligible loss of tire pressure; at least that's my experience. Just fully deflate the tire when you get home and pump up with air.PoorInRichfield wrote:It's been my experience that CO2 doesn't keep tire pressure up very long, especially in hot weather. For this reason, I've opted to carry a micro pump instead of CO2. Sure, micro-pumps are not the most fun to use, but they only stop pumping air when your arm falls offchoochoo46 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:04 amFive and ten miles later used CO2 #4 and #5. When installing the tube I didn't first check the tire for what caused the original puncture. So I had a tiny slow leak.
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DittoMikeD wrote: The slow leak rate of CO2 should allow you to complete the ride with negligible loss of tire pressure; at least that's my experience. Just fully deflate the tire when you get home and pump up with air.