Campy WTO 33 vs Bora 35

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uraqt
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by uraqt

So...

Camy says Bora 35 is 17.4 wide and don't use 23 tire , the new WTO 33 is 19 wide and can use 23 tire. This is confusing any idea why?

Thanks..

C

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by alanyu

It's just the old etrto vs. new etrto.

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by doogie2304

I'm using Conti 5000 28mm on my Bora 35's - no problems at all and great road feel.

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by moock

I have Bora One 50 with 17 internal / 24.2 external and it is perfectly flush with 24cottonTurbo or 25VeloflexMaster

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by fogman

I use 23 mm Vittoria Corsa G+ clinchers on my Bora One 35. No problems. They measure out to 25 mm when inflated to 100 psi.


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by Stvrox

Can anyone tell me how 25mm conti GP 5000s measure up on the Bora 35s?

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by bruno2000

Someone allready used both the bora ultra 35 and the bora wto33?
I have a set of bora ultra 35 but I'm considering going for the bora wto 33.
Altough these are heavier by 35 grams but can be considered more aero.
Or am I wrong?

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by bruno2000

Someone allready used both the bora ultra 35 and the bora wto33?
I have a set of bora ultra 35 but I'm considering going for the bora wto 33.
Altough these are heavier by 35 grams but can be considered more aero.
Or am I wrong?

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by fogman

I have a set of Bora One 35 and WTO 33. The actual weight of my Bora One 35 is 1390 grams and the actual weight of my WTO 33 is 1412 grams. The Bora One 35 has an internal width of 17c whereas the WTO has an internal width of 19c. They both have the USB bearings. The advantages of the WTO 33 over the Bora One 35 is more aerodynamic and the ability to run clincher or tubeless.


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by neeb

fogman wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 4:29 pm
I have a set of Bora One 35 and WTO 33. The actual weight of my Bora One 35 is 1390 grams and the actual weight of my WTO 33 is 1412 grams. The Bora One 35 has an internal width of 17c whereas the WTO has an internal width of 19c. They both have the USB bearings. The advantages of the WTO 33 over the Bora One 35 is more aerodynamic and the ability to run clincher or tubeless.


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How do they compare to ride? Thinking of stiffness, apparent speed, responsiveness, general feel..

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neeb wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:06 pm
fogman wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 4:29 pm
I have a set of Bora One 35 and WTO 33. The actual weight of my Bora One 35 is 1390 grams and the actual weight of my WTO 33 is 1412 grams. The Bora One 35 has an internal width of 17c whereas the WTO has an internal width of 19c. They both have the USB bearings. The advantages of the WTO 33 over the Bora One 35 is more aerodynamic and the ability to run clincher or tubeless.


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How do they compare to ride? Thinking of stiffness, apparent speed, responsiveness, general feel..
+1, very interested in the feedback :beerchug:
Some say pour 10ml water out of your bottle to save that last bit of the weight. Sorry, i go one step further, i tend to the rider off my bikes. :thumbup:
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by owlbass

WorkonSunday wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:51 am
neeb wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:06 pm
fogman wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 4:29 pm
I have a set of Bora One 35 and WTO 33. The actual weight of my Bora One 35 is 1390 grams and the actual weight of my WTO 33 is 1412 grams. The Bora One 35 has an internal width of 17c whereas the WTO has an internal width of 19c. They both have the USB bearings. The advantages of the WTO 33 over the Bora One 35 is more aerodynamic and the ability to run clincher or tubeless.


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How do they compare to ride? Thinking of stiffness, apparent speed, responsiveness, general feel..
+1, very interested in the feedback :beerchug:
I'd be very interested in this too. I have 35 Ultras but want to move to tubeless on my road bike. Debating between the WTO 33's and 45's.

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by neeb

I've just ordered a set of WTO 33s and will report back on them.. I've seen one or two comparisons of Bora 35s and WTO 33s, but never comparing like with like, i.e. rim brake clincher with rim brake clincher. My 35s are tubs so I'm afraid I can't provide a straight up comparison either..

Someone on the WTO thread said that the 33s felt a bit different from the 45s and the 60s (the latter two feeling quite similar), and that the 33s were significantly better in crosswinds (although the 45s are apparently not too bad, better than the Bora 50s).

The attraction of the 33s for me is that they are a perfect allrounder for the lightweight bike when I'm not running tubs - good braking, pretty light, not affected by crosswinds, probably pretty aero for the narrow depth, especially if run with 23mm tyres.

I was tempted by the WTO 45s but would rather have the 33s with the possibility of investing in the 60s at a later date..

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by gorkypl

WTO45s are amazing, extremely versatile. I'm running the DB version, they spin beautifully and are much better in crosswinds than I have expected - no scary situation in last few thousands kms (I weigh 75kgs).

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neeb wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:40 pm
I've just ordered a set of WTO 33s and will report back on them.. I've seen one or two comparisons of Bora 35s and WTO 33s, but never comparing like with like, i.e. rim brake clincher with rim brake clincher. My 35s are tubs so I'm afraid I can't provide a straight up comparison either..

Someone on the WTO thread said that the 33s felt a bit different from the 45s and the 60s (the latter two feeling quite similar), and that the 33s were significantly better in crosswinds (although the 45s are apparently not too bad, better than the Bora 50s).

The attraction of the 33s for me is that they are a perfect allrounder for the lightweight bike when I'm not running tubs - good braking, pretty light, not affected by crosswinds, probably pretty aero for the narrow depth, especially if run with 23mm tyres.

I was tempted by the WTO 45s but would rather have the 33s with the possibility of investing in the 60s at a later date..
thanks for the update. i am even more keen the see the WTO vs Tub. i have the bora 50 Tub and totally love them. I have been wanting to get something that has similar feel but in clincher/tubeless format. wto 33 or zipp 303 FC (2021 ver) are currently on the short list. :beerchug:
Some say pour 10ml water out of your bottle to save that last bit of the weight. Sorry, i go one step further, i tend to the rider off my bikes. :thumbup:
n+1...14 last time i checked, but i lost count :mrgreen:

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