What pressures are you running your 28mm's at?
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85-86kg here and running 28mm Grand Sports on a set of 25mm wide Belgium+ rims. Th wider rims make a difference.
I run them at 85psi front, 90psi rear. Mostly run on chip seal. I've tried running them lower (down to 65) but it's a noticeably slower cadence or tougher pedal on long rides at my weight with the lower air pressure.
I will set em up at 90/95 and by the end of the week they are ~75/80 and I air them up again.
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I run them at 85psi front, 90psi rear. Mostly run on chip seal. I've tried running them lower (down to 65) but it's a noticeably slower cadence or tougher pedal on long rides at my weight with the lower air pressure.
I will set em up at 90/95 and by the end of the week they are ~75/80 and I air them up again.
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Pretty big variation all round
I have a big ride on Thursday and no chance to test these before then so hoping to get it right. Some really scary, steep, windy and narrow descents that I don't know, so don't want them being squirmy. Also don't want them feeling 'bouncy' hitting rough stuff on the descents either.
Thinking 90/85 or 85/80 for first ride
But that's what I was running the 25's at really..
Rims are Campag Zonda disc brakes.. 22mm I think.
I have a big ride on Thursday and no chance to test these before then so hoping to get it right. Some really scary, steep, windy and narrow descents that I don't know, so don't want them being squirmy. Also don't want them feeling 'bouncy' hitting rough stuff on the descents either.
Thinking 90/85 or 85/80 for first ride
But that's what I was running the 25's at really..
Rims are Campag Zonda disc brakes.. 22mm I think.
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You can always leave some air out during the ride
As said it's also about the tire. I have Corsa and p zero in 25 (both measuring +27mm). On the corsa I go for 60 psi while on the p zero it's 70 psi. I weigh 65kg. When I go too low on the front the steering can feel a bit vague.
I also have Corsa in 28 but they measure practicly the same as the 25 on my rims.
As said it's also about the tire. I have Corsa and p zero in 25 (both measuring +27mm). On the corsa I go for 60 psi while on the p zero it's 70 psi. I weigh 65kg. When I go too low on the front the steering can feel a bit vague.
I also have Corsa in 28 but they measure practicly the same as the 25 on my rims.
Makes no sense. When you go up a tire size you need to drop pressure not increase pressure. You should drop 5-10psi. Try 80 front 85 rear and adjust down if needed.Shrike wrote: Thinking 90/85 or 85/80 for first ride
But that's what I was running the 25's at really...
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I'm 2 kg heavier than you but run very similar pressure. 60 psi up front and 65-70 psi in back. Running it on Enve 5.6 Disc, Continental GP4000s2 28mm and Latex tubes...and yes, I have to refill every morning.
Good feel, good traction, good comfort and still seemingly very good rolling resistance on these tri-state roads.
Good feel, good traction, good comfort and still seemingly very good rolling resistance on these tri-state roads.
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Good choice. It should not be squirmy. But, you didn't provide your weight, so who knows.
For points of comparison, check out this table from Enve's site:
also, depends on tubed or tubeless. above chart is based on tubeless.
68kg, 28mm tires on 25mm wide rims...55 psi. tubeless.
80-85 psi on tubed tires.
also, my front tire loses air much more often than the rear overnight. does this mean that I need to top up some more sealant in the front tire?
68kg, 28mm tires on 25mm wide rims...55 psi. tubeless.
80-85 psi on tubed tires.
also, my front tire loses air much more often than the rear overnight. does this mean that I need to top up some more sealant in the front tire?
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It really doesn´t make sense, to move to wider tires, if you don´t want a more comfortable ride. This means, if you run the same pressure as before with narrower tires, you don´t really get any advantage. You just get a heavier tire than before. I´m aware, that the air chamber is bigger, which gives you marginally more comfortable ride than with 25 mm, but nothing of any importance.
There´s no need to go wider, if you don´t drop the pressure. AND if you drop the pressure, you might as well go significantly lower. I run my 32 mm with 2.8 bars (40 psi). I´m 90 kg. I ride all sorts of rides with those tires. Gravel, road, mountains, mountain descents e.g. Those rare occassions I run 28 mm, I´m doing 3.5 bars (50 psi). With wider tires you get better grip, especially when riding lower pressure.
But riding 80ish psi with 28 mm tires, IMHO that´s just totally missing the point of going wider. Might as well just go 23 mm and stay there. It´s faster and lighter. Don´t jump on the marketing BS about wider being faster.
There´s no need to go wider, if you don´t drop the pressure. AND if you drop the pressure, you might as well go significantly lower. I run my 32 mm with 2.8 bars (40 psi). I´m 90 kg. I ride all sorts of rides with those tires. Gravel, road, mountains, mountain descents e.g. Those rare occassions I run 28 mm, I´m doing 3.5 bars (50 psi). With wider tires you get better grip, especially when riding lower pressure.
But riding 80ish psi with 28 mm tires, IMHO that´s just totally missing the point of going wider. Might as well just go 23 mm and stay there. It´s faster and lighter. Don´t jump on the marketing BS about wider being faster.
Tubed (Turbo Cottons with Latex tubes)
83kg
Front 80/Rear 85psi
And I most definitely want a more comfortable ride with the shitty roads around here.
83kg
Front 80/Rear 85psi
And I most definitely want a more comfortable ride with the shitty roads around here.
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Are you running tubes or tubeless? I just mounted up a set of 28mm GP5Ks on my road bike, they measure at 30mm with the 21c rims. I've been running 80/90 on the same tires on my other bike (10psi lower than what I run on tires that measure about 27mm), I'll try going a lil lower and see how it feels.Multebear wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:51 pmIt really doesn´t make sense, to move to wider tires, if you don´t want a more comfortable ride. This means, if you run the same pressure as before with narrower tires, you don´t really get any advantage. You just get a heavier tire than before. I´m aware, that the air chamber is bigger, which gives you marginally more comfortable ride than with 25 mm, but nothing of any importance.
There´s no need to go wider, if you don´t drop the pressure. AND if you drop the pressure, you might as well go significantly lower. I run my 32 mm with 2.8 bars (40 psi). I´m 90 kg. I ride all sorts of rides with those tires. Gravel, road, mountains, mountain descents e.g. Those rare occassions I run 28 mm, I´m doing 3.5 bars (50 psi). With wider tires you get better grip, especially when riding lower pressure.
But riding 80ish psi with 28 mm tires, IMHO that´s just totally missing the point of going wider. Might as well just go 23 mm and stay there. It´s faster and lighter. Don´t jump on the marketing BS about wider being faster.