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Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:54 am
by Mazza
Has anyone had an issue with drag on the Mavic ID360 freehub ? Ive taken it apart and cleaned the ratchet and spring etc but when the wheel spins freely on the stand it turns the cranks, so much so that it throws the chain if I freewheel now.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:59 am
by Jugi
What kind of lubrication do you use? I've found the freehub's seal to produce quite a lot of drag in some cases. Using more than the recommended amount of oil may remedy the issue, especially when dealing with a relatively new hub.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:59 am
by Weenie

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 12:21 pm
by Mazza
I've tried some light grease. Think I'll try it without the seal to see if that is the issue. Looks like I might need to order the proper Mavic grease or does anyone know an equivalent ?

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:17 pm
by Jugi
Does Mavic recommend grease for ID360? For the ITS-4 hub they recommended a light (sewing machine type) oil for the freehub pawls. I've used just regular 5W-30 engine oil leftovers from car's oil change with success. Usually I'll put in a little more than recommended. Excess will slowly find itself a way out.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 2:08 pm
by Mazza
Jugi wrote: ā†‘
Wed May 22, 2019 1:17 pm
Does Mavic recommend grease for ID360? For the ITS-4 hub they recommended a light (sewing machine type) oil for the freehub pawls. I've used just regular 5W-30 engine oil leftovers from car's oil change with success. Usually I'll put in a little more than recommended. Excess will slowly find itself a way out.
Yeah they sell sachets of grease. Its totally different to the pawl set up. Cant say I'm impressed so far after replacing the bearings which didnt last long and needed a special tool.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 2:23 pm
by alcatraz
Can you describe "throws the chain" a bit please.

I noticed on new wheels the springs for the pawls can be too strong. I sometimes adjust them to make them a bit weaker.

Oil instead of grease can help to lower the viscosity around the seals. I think the hub manufacturers like to use as thick stuff as possible to increase time between services but it does make the hub slower.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 2:37 pm
by Mazza
alcatraz wrote: ā†‘
Wed May 22, 2019 2:23 pm
Can you describe "throws the chain" a bit please.

I noticed on new wheels the springs for the pawls can be too strong. I sometimes adjust them to make them a bit weaker.

Oil instead of grease can help to lower the viscosity around the seals. I think the hub manufacturers like to use as thick stuff as possible to increase time between services but it does make the hub slower.
The wheels aren't new. When I stop pedalling as there is so much drag the cassette continues to rotate and as I've stopped pedalling the chainring is obviously stationary, this means the cassette is pushing the chain, chain gets lots off slack due to the stationary chainring, the chain gets dropped off when I turn the cranks again.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:31 pm
by alcatraz
So you have a sticky fteehub. Take off, clean and grease.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:35 pm
by Mazza
alcatraz wrote: ā†‘
Wed May 22, 2019 3:31 pm
So you have a sticky fteehub. Take off, clean and grease.
I have done.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:18 pm
by Mazza
Seems to be sorted after disassembling, re-assembling and trying various lubes.
There was a lot of drag on the seal which was a lot better when I turned it back to front (it was definitely the right way round according to https://tech.mavic.com/tech-mavic/techn ... ronu=23669).

I lubed the seal etc with the wonder spray that is ACF50 and voila zero drag. Iā€™m not sure ACF50 is a suitable lube for the metal to metal ratchet so will probably order some Mavic grease.

Re: Mavic ID360 freehub

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:18 pm
by Weenie